Site of attack on JNS: Can it lead to clues about Jacob?

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MotherOcean said:
Does anyone have a link to verify that Jared was assaulted on or near a farm? I ask because I can't track one down but I am very certain that i have read that reported, not just rumored, in the past. It stuck in my mind because I know that DR has a farm. Not saying it was DR's farm. Just that the coincidence stuck in my mind.
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Agreed, I heard the same and also remember hearing something about grain silos, but don't know where the source is. Be good to clear that up.
 
Coincidence in Wetterling Case
http://archive.kare11.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=63324

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"In the days after Wetterling disappeared, investigators took Jared to car lots to try to identify the make of model of his abductor's car.

They also drove him around at night, trying to trace his abductor's route.

Jared was finally able to lead authorities to the right location when he recognized a distinctive light at a nearby farm.

"Where you see the silo there, there was a distinguished light I remember from that night while I was looking out the window," Jared recalled. "

OK, this says a farm was nearby.
 
MotherOcean said:
Coincidence in Wetterling Case
http://archive.kare11.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=63324

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"In the days after Wetterling disappeared, investigators took Jared to car lots to try to identify the make of model of his abductor's car.

They also drove him around at night, trying to trace his abductor's route.

Jared was finally able to lead authorities to the right location when he recognized a distinctive light at a nearby farm.

"Where you see the silo there, there was a distinguished light I remember from that night while I was looking out the window," Jared recalled. "

OK, this says a farm was nearby.
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Then I think the exact location of his assault can be determined. I say this because we know it was a gravel road and a very short distance from the Richmond Ball Park. We now know a farm light and grain silo were nearby. I would also point out that it appears to be only one grain silo. He could see the Richmond city lights from there, so the location was most likely on the west side of Richmond. More than enough. I'll start looking.
 
This turns out to be a very unique property. I've only been able to find one property that meets all these criteria. I used current aerial and 1991 aerial maps to compare.
1. Today the drive is paved. In 1991 it was gravel.
2. It has a line of sight across open fields to the city lights of Richmond.
3. It is approximately 1 mile west of the Richmond ball park. It had a pond beside it in 1991 that is filled now.
4. It had only one grain silo in 1991. Today it is still there but is missing its roof.
5. In 1991 it had a pole light over the property.
6. The vantage point from where the assault would have occurred to the silo is about 100 meters.
7. It was a farm property but not clear if it is anymore.
8. It is rural, even today
I'll keep looking for any more, but haven't found any other candidates so far. It's coordinates are:
Munson Township, MN
45.435867, -94.572999
 
I think all the locals know the exact location and I belief it was even stated on a previous thread where the exact location was.


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nmogren said:
I think all the locals know the exact location and I belief it was even stated on a previous thread where the exact location was.


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Based on the Kare 11 report I suspected as much but haven't found a link or source.
 
It's way back in one of the many JW threads.


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bodester413 said:
I wonder where the National Guard trained during that time frame? In one police interview Heinrich said he didn't remember what he was doing on that Sunday, but most Sundays he just drove around town or rented and watched a movie. I wonder if records are still around that show if the Willmar guard trained that weekend?

http://www.startribune.com/what-we-know-about-danny-james-heinrich/338508931/#1

The link above said this:

Heinrich served as a specialist in the Minnesota National Guard out of Willmar from February 1982 until Nov. 24, 1991, when he was discharged under honorable conditions, according to the Minnesota National Guard. (Although the National Guard was part of the Wetterling search in 1989, it is unknown whether Heinrich was involved in the search.

Maybe his time training would have enabled him to find out of the way areas?
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Maybe he drove all the way to the St. Joe Tom Thumb to rent a movie...
He probably was involved in the search too. :eek: Gross.
 
nmogren said:
It's way back in one of the many JW threads.


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Well, just searched again with different terms and no luck. All I've found is a report from the Star Tribune that he was taken "5 miles" to some place "north of Richmond". I've probably read all these JEW threads and I don't recall an exact location being mentioned. Is there some search term I'm missing?
 
I thought it was Shergal or Shay maybe that knew of the location. I could be wrong?


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nmogren said:
I thought it was Shergal or Shay maybe that knew of the location. I could be wrong?


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Yea, Shergal said,

"... quarry or pond near that church in Richmond."

But that was all I saw in her posts. No specifics. And I don't see any property north of Richmond and 5 miles from Cold Spring that fits the description either. I'll check for churches and quarries as well.
 
Sigrun said:
Yea, Shergal said,

"... quarry or pond near that church in Richmond."

But that was all I saw in her posts. No specifics. And I don't see any property north of Richmond and 5 miles from Cold Spring that fits the description either. I'll check for churches and quarries as well.
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CGorg and I followed all these clues long ago; a dirt road, farm with distinctive silo light, there is a church near the spot now that was not there in 1989, near Bell's Hill, etc. We both made up maps on our own using google maps of where we thought the location was. There was only one spot that now had a church by it. When we compared them through PMs on here, we found we were really close to each other. We were pretty sure that was the spot. There was (and still is) a small pothole or quarry right off the dirt road. I still have the maps, but really hesitate to post them here, because it was all SPECULATION.

What would make more sense to me, is to just ask Jared the exact spot. (I'm sure Stink and all the locals from Cold Spring know where it is also.) However, LE has known the exact spot ever since they drove Jared out there. So I'm quite sure FBI and BCA and local LE have already searched that spot back in 1989-90. I'm not sure what you could expect to find there 26 years later. JMO
 
So, we have another basic fact in this case turning into a "big mystery". On the morning of 22 October JEW went fishing right about here:
17298 Honeysuckle Rd
Cold Spring, MN 56320
45.504787, -94.464129
The most reliable information we have on where JS was assaulted comes from the search warrant, Kare 11 and Pat Doyle of the Star Tribune:

It was north of Richmond - about 5 miles from where JS was picked up
It was at a farm, on a gravel road which had a distinctive light and one grain silo (probably just one)

I'm going to try to "weld" this info together and see what happens.
 
Sigrun said:
So, we have another basic fact in this case turning into a "big mystery". On the morning of 22 October JEW went fishing right about here:
17298 Honeysuckle Rd
Cold Spring, MN 56320
45.504787, -94.464129
The most reliable information we have on where JS was assaulted comes from the search warrant, Kare 11 and Pat Doyle of the Star Tribune:

It was north of Richmond - about 5 miles from where JS was picked up
It was at a farm, on a gravel road which had a distinctive light and one grain silo (probably just one)

I'm going to try to "weld" this info together and see what happens.
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Hmm....If you're headed north on 193rd avenue and take a right on Glenwood road there's a farm on the right with a huge silo really close to the road. It's north and slightly east of Richmond. I can't see the silo clear enough to be able to tell if anything is mounted on top though....It looks taller than most though.
 
bodester413 said:
Hmm....If you're headed north on 193rd avenue and take a right on Glenwood road there's a farm on the right with a huge silo really close to the road. It's north and slightly east of Richmond. I can't see the silo clear enough to be able to tell if anything is mounted on top though....It looks taller than most though.
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Yep, I see it. There are dozens of silos in this area. I'm trying to match up all these features and can't find a single match on the north side of Richmond.

Update: No combination of church and silo either.
 
Sigrun said:
Yep, I see it. There are dozens of silos in this area. I'm trying to match up all these features and can't find a single match on the north side of Richmond.

Update: No combination of church and silo either.
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True, I forgot about a church being near....I'm not finding anything north either. I'm going to go back and reread the articles that talked about where he drove. Maybe I'll notice something that I missed before.
 
bodester413 said:
True, I forgot about a church being near....I'm not finding anything north either. I'm going to go back and reread the articles that talked about where he drove. Maybe I'll notice something that I missed before.
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Thanks, I've found one candidate. The coordinates are for where I think the assault could have occurred. It had a gravel drive in 1991 but also a gravel turnoff across the street hidden from the highway by trees. But it had a direct view back to the house, lights and a silo. It is 5 miles from Cold Spring, north-east of Richmond but direct enough to have allowed them to pass by the Richmond Ball Park and for the POI to return to Cold Spring from the north:

45.475913, -94.479657

Based on searches done so far, I don't think the "gravel" drive is the drive to the property. It must be an adjoining drive. Going to base my search on that now.

BTW: I found what I think Shergal found and she said it was speculation. I don't think this is it because it doesn't match the verifiable facts from the warrant: unlikely they passed the Richmond Ball park to get there, not 5 miles outside Cold Spring but right outside (newspaper) and no way this drive could have taken 15 minutes from where JS was picked up. So, I think the Church is a red herring.

And: the original silo is gone, but was there in 1989.
 
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