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All claims have been that Debbie Bradley was in a fetal position on the floor bawling. She wasn't in a condition/position to be asking her sons if you believe those close to her and you believe her claim about how much she drank. She was likely legally drunk then right? Assuming she wasn't in a condition then to be asking her boys .....I would think the initial cops kept them separated ...DB and JI were likely busy meeting with and answering KCPD questions on Oct. 4. We know the boys were interviewed. The boys heard a clicking or tapping sound depending on who you listen to.

It was Joe Tacopina who stated DB was on the floor in the fetal position. He wasn't there. This is believable to me however. A mother would be freaking out on the floor. A mother would also be running around everywhere shouting out her baby's name and waking her neighbours and questioning her boys.
 
Since a tape dispenser was taken in the search, it is my guess that the clicking sounds came from that.
 
KCPD was suspicious of Debbie Bradley on Oct. 4. I would have asked my sons and badgered them but I also know as Bill Stanton says if she had then she would have been seen as coaching or tampering with her boys. Even as quickly as Oct. 4 or any time after that.

Totally agree. Of COURSE they were suspicious of her! Statisticly, it usually is the mother, father, family, etc. Add to that her hinky story from square one, plus there's really no telling how many times she changed her story while talking to LE that first day. We've heard her change it several times, why think her story only changed with the public and not LE several times before that?

I don't agree with BS. It looks suspicious NOT to have asked them before even calling 911. Asking immediately would not be viewed by LE the same as waiting days, weeks, months, years, or as it turns out EVER! More bought and paid for spin on reality if you ask me.


It was Joe Tacopina who stated DB was on the floor in the fetal position. He wasn't there. This is believable to me however. A mother would be freaking out on the floor. A mother would also be running around everywhere shouting out her baby's name and waking her neighbours and questioning her boys.

I believe she did it, I just don't believe it's an innocent mother's reaction to her baby being missing. That accomplishes nothing except to attract attention to herself and be a drama queen. A truly worried mother would be hysterical, granted, but would be doing everything in her power to actively try to find her.

Since a tape dispenser was taken in the search, it is my guess that the clicking sounds came from that.

You nailed it Stormy! Makes perfect sense. What else could it have been? What would a "kidnapper" have been doing to make that kind of noise?
 
Since a tape dispenser was taken in the search, it is my guess that the clicking sounds came from that.

When I was using a 3M clear packing tape recently, it made a clear precise "clicking" sound when pulled. I was stunned when I heard it.
 
We never learned exactly WHEN they heard those noises, did we? DB was the one who mentioned it, IIRC, and yeah, maybe she did say it was after they went to bed (after 10)?
 
We never learned exactly WHEN they heard those noises, did we? DB was the one who mentioned it, IIRC, and yeah, maybe she did say it was after they went to bed (after 10)?

As far as I know, DB is the only one to say that the boys heard clicking noises. I may very well be wrong, but I don't recall anyone else saying that. I think you are correct about it being after they went to bed. Anyone have a link to someone else saying this? TIA
 
The bed story is another weird deal. First they were in their own beds. Then one boy was in her bed, then they both were, then they weren't. It's like musical beds in this house! If both boys were in bed with DB, where did she think JI was going to sleep? Maybe she knew he wouldn't be sleeping there anyway. Ties into that thing about always calling it "the mother's bed(room)" etc. in relation to the CD hit.

The only reason I wonder about this is because it could shed a lot of light on their relationship, JI's cold attitude towards DB, DB's always touching JI, hugging him, hand on his knee. Was DB losing JI before Lisa vanished? She sure looks needy and desperate to hang on to him now. JMO but I think that could have been a motive. A last ditch attempt to make him focus on her, gain sympathy, share a common loss, cling together in the face of tragedy.

Between the behavior displayed over the last 14+ months by all parties involved, the vast number of "coincidences", the hard cold facts that we know of in evidence, and being unfortunate enough to have known someone EXACTLY like DB in the past, I'll never believe this was an accident. On the snowball's chance it was, I think it was very "convienent" for someone.

As always, JMO. :moo:
 
The bed story is another weird deal. First they were in their own beds. Then one boy was in her bed, then they both were, then they weren't. It's like musical beds in this house! If both boys were in bed with DB, where did she think JI was going to sleep? Maybe she knew he wouldn't be sleeping there anyway. Ties into that thing about always calling it "the mother's bed(room)" etc. in relation to the CD hit.

The only reason I wonder about this is because it could shed a lot of light on their relationship, JI's cold attitude towards DB, DB's always touching JI, hugging him, hand on his knee. Was DB losing JI before Lisa vanished? She sure looks needy and desperate to hang on to him now. JMO but I think that could have been a motive. A last ditch attempt to make him focus on her, gain sympathy, share a common loss, cling together in the face of tragedy.

Between the behavior displayed over the last 14+ months by all parties involved, the vast number of "coincidences", the hard cold facts that we know of in evidence, and being unfortunate enough to have known someone EXACTLY like DB in the past, I'll never believe this was an accident. On the snowball's chance it was, I think it was very "convienent" for someone.

As always, JMO. :moo:
I think how she told Judge Jeanine that she likes to have her kids sleep in her bed when she can is very telling.... I think Lisa was in her bed that night, & something happened. A sick baby alone in her bed all those hours, while she has a 6 year old in her bed? I think he heard something & woke up, she told him he had a "nightmare" to explain whatever he heard, & she took him to her bed.
 
What I feel is important is how the boys were interviewed on Nov 10th.
Officials say the interviewer, who specializes in gathering information from traumatized children, is not an FBI Agent.
The specialist interviewed the brothers individually. Each interview was videotaped. According to police, the lawyers, family and detectives were in another room while the interviews were conducted.
They were separated from their family and lawyers during the interview. So it was impossible for them to infulunce these young 5 and 8 year old boys during this process.

LE always has this to verify the boys statements.
The boys, ages 5 and 8, were interviewed by police, one for about 30 minutes and the other about 50 minutes, on Oct. 4, the day Lisa vanished.
In my opinion, the young boys haven't been able to help much in the investigation because they don't know anything of value.

Read more: http://www.kshb.com/dpp/news/region...iew-half-brothers-of-lisa-irwin#ixzz2Fr1fDruI
 
There is a pic of the bedroom that clearly shows an occilating fan near the foot of the bed. I'd bet my farm DB, in a drunken stupor, knocked over that fan while it was running. Bar an occilating fan from occilating, and tell me what you hear. Click click click click click...
 
Clicking sound - this information originally came from BS (later repeated by DB), which makes me want to discount it entirely, but then why did he bring it up at all.

So, more likely, it was what the boys told police that very first night when asked "did you hear or see anything unusual". Then BS and lawyer wanted to dilute that information to the public, potential jury. SO they put it out there, and let everyone start making guesses.

I personally don't think she was snockered, I think she was an experienced drinker, and could drink a whole lot more than she did. Tipsy yes, but not blacked out drunk. Again, it was part of the police investigation, so the lawyer put it out there to dilute it.

I do think the clicking noises were something that were Unusual to the boys (not the baby swing, or even mom texting...they would say, I heard mom texting). Something the boy couldn't identify. And likely it went on for long enough to make an impression on a young boy.

The fan being knocked over is a really good guess.
 
I've been packing boxes (moving has become a bad habit of ours) and every box I tape up and the sound it makes as the tape comes off makes me think of Lisa. Every darn box I think of that little baby and have to wonder if that's the reason the tape dispenser was taken by LE.
 
I've been packing boxes (moving has become a bad habit of ours) and every box I tape up and the sound it makes as the tape comes off makes me think of Lisa. Every darn box I think of that little baby and have to wonder if that's the reason the tape dispenser was taken by LE.

...it is uncanny how that plastic masking tape makes a "clicking" sound. I came to the same conclusion. Dollars to donuts LE did too as they took the packing tape and dispenser from the house as evidence.
 
A flashlight being clicked on and off makes a clicking noise , I hadnt seen that mentioned. Some of those cheap push button little things are pretty loud and not your everyday type of clicking. one push they click twice , two pushes 4 clicks.
 
Snortable drugs being chopped up with a razor blade on a mirror? Clicking noise for sure.
 
Snortable drugs being chopped up with a razor blade on a mirror? Clicking noise for sure.
Drugs? I haven't seen any evidence that suggests drug use by Lisa's parents. How about the furnace having a problem and it being the source of the clicks? I'm sure that there's one in the house.
Whether you have an electric furnace or an oil-heated one, a clicking sound emanating from your heating system can be not just annoying but a sign that something is seriously wrong. There could be several reasons for a persistent clicking noise in your furnace. When in doubt, it is best to contact a service professional to make sure a problem larger than an aggravating noise isn't looming on the horizon.

Read more: Clicking Noises in Furnaces | eHow http://www.ehow.com/how_11386575_clicking-noises-furnaces.html#ixzz2T2bTP8Sj
 
Drugs? I haven't seen any evidence that suggests drug use by Lisa's parents. How about the furnace having a problem and it being the source of the clicks? I'm sure that there's one in the house.


Read more: Clicking Noises in Furnaces | eHow http://www.ehow.com/how_11386575_clicking-noises-furnaces.html#ixzz2T2bTP8Sj

Gas ranges also click before igniting the burner. Electric heaters also click when they cool down, oscillating fans will click when they change direction. There are probably 100s of innocent household items that are capable of emitting a clicking noise. In fact, we don't kow at what point during the night the boys heard the noise, or if itis related to Lisa's disappearance. It could be related, or it could be totally unrelated.
 
Gas ranges also click before igniting the burner. Electric heaters also click when they cool down, oscillating fans will click when they change direction. There are probably 100s of innocent household items that are capable of emitting a clicking noise. In fact, we don't kow at what point during the night the boys heard the noise, or if itis related to Lisa's disappearance. It could be related, or it could be totally unrelated.

I agree Dewey. There are plenty of innocuous reasons for a clicking sound to be in someones home. <modsnip>. MOO.
 
Oh my. One good sound that makes clicking is just as valid as another. None of us have the least clue what it might have been.

And yes, DB was using drugs. Not illegal drugs ~ but she claims she abused alcohol to the extent that she was incoherent as to understanding what happened that night. So no high horses please about drugs.
 
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