They very well could of lived in the same house. Some MSM is reporting the shooter was related to the brothers. The mayor of La Loche is quoted as saying that the RCMP told him the shooter killed his 2 brothers before going to the school.
Canada - Four killed, 7 injured in shootings, La Loche, Sask, 22 Jan 2016
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Aha. I should have read your post before I posted mine. It only made sense to me they were kin to the shooter.
Thanks for the link confirming my suspicions.
Based on everything we have on this shooting I think this is probably correct. A person on Reddit claiming to be a relative said as much before any details came out through MSM. Due to Canada's laws we won't get a name or anything else. Not sure if this applies if minor is charged as an adult?
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I wonder if any U.S. News outlets will pick up the story and figure out the shooters identity and release it?
Years ago- there was a 13 year old girl in Alberta... My memory is murky but she began dating a guy around 20 years old. They ended up killing her parents and her little brother. Because of her age her identity was protected, but a bunch of US news outlets released her name and pictures. When she was released a couple years ago she was given a new identity because of that and disappeared into the wind....
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If he is charged as an adult, yes his name will be released... A Canadian example - Kruse Wellwood was immediately identified after he was charged with murdering Kimberly Proctor. He was 16 at the time of the crime so there is a good chance this shooter will be charged as an adult.
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Yes the girl was 12 and he was 23. His name is Jeremy Steinke. Part of the issue with that case was they identified the victims - a mom, dad and an 8 year old boy as the "R" family (there is a wiki entry under their full name). But then when she was arrested, it was pretty obvious who she was. In later reporting, they stopped identifying the family name but by then everyone knew who she was so it wasn't so much the US media although they may have continued to use the name. She was actually in the news a few months ago - she is off probation and apparently attending university in Calgary...
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This makes painful reading
https://news.vice.com/article/no-on...l-shooting-is-the-latest-tragedy-for-la-loche
https://news.vice.com/article/no-on...l-shooting-is-the-latest-tragedy-for-la-loche
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I wonder why he would shoot his brothers? [ if he did]
I can easily understand a teen shooting his parents or his ex-gf. But his brothers? It seems odd because it was not a murder suicide even.
There must be a back story. I saw pix of the brothers online from their FB pages. They seem to be regular, happy normal teens. so tragic for their family. What a nightmare. :rose: :rose: :rose: :rose: :rose:
I can easily understand a teen shooting his parents or his ex-gf. But his brothers? It seems odd because it was not a murder suicide even.
There must be a back story. I saw pix of the brothers online from their FB pages. They seem to be regular, happy normal teens. so tragic for their family. What a nightmare. :rose: :rose: :rose: :rose: :rose:
On top of this, I'm not sure at all why the crime scene moved to the school. It appears that two teachers died in the school shooting, and no students who were attending classes during this time. This shooting is as confusing as it is sad. Was at least one of these teachers involved in something, or related to the shooter? I am wondering if maybe one teacher was a target, and one teacher was "in the way" so to speak. By no means do I mean deserving when i say target, by the way, I'm just trying to understand this shooter's motive here.
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This tweet was embedded in the ViceNees story
Devin Heroux (@Devin_Heroux) tweeted at 8:14am - 23 Jan 16:
Family of Marie Janvier sent this photo. Aunt Diane Janvier says her smile could light up a room @CBCAlerts #LaLoche pic.twitter.com/YbHcCjCULj
Devin Heroux (@Devin_Heroux) tweeted at 8:14am - 23 Jan 16:
https://twitter.com/Devin_Heroux/status/690930584533618688?s=17
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Confirms Darius Piche received the text message from the shooter who was nicknamed "ears" in the convo http://aptn.ca/news/2016/01/24/poli...th-first-degree-murder-in-la-loche-shootings/
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More info front his link on the victims and charges
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The boy, who cannot be named under youth criminal legislation, is also charged with seven counts of attempted murder in relation to those who were injured when he allegedly opened fire at the La Loche Community school Friday.
The RCMP have identified the four people killed in Fridays attack.
Dayne Fontaine, 17, and Drayden Fontaine, 13 were found dead at a residence in a residence in the community. Teacher Adam Wood, 35, and school assistant Marie Janvier, 21 were shot at the school.
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http://thestarphoenix.com/news/crim...chool-shooting-teen-facing-four-murder-counts Not sure I agree that cuts to supports could of contributed
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It would be nice to see some real justice meted out for the loss of 4 lives and those wounded ; and my opinion is that those wounded may have been attempted murders as well.
Sadly, because of the perp's age, there might be a possibility he could be released at what... 21 ? 25 ?
For the loss of those four lives alone---I think being incarcerated for the duration of his own life would be appropriate ; and while in prison, he can sit and think about the choices he made.
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Rest in peace, Dayne, Drayden, Marie, and Adam !
Sadly, because of the perp's age, there might be a possibility he could be released at what... 21 ? 25 ?
For the loss of those four lives alone---I think being incarcerated for the duration of his own life would be appropriate ; and while in prison, he can sit and think about the choices he made.
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Rest in peace, Dayne, Drayden, Marie, and Adam !
It appears they are charging him with the attempted murders, too. But the laws in Canada are a little strange about this stuff. First of all, there's no death penalty as many already know. That's not a problem imo. But the next thing could be problematic... they don't really do life sentences without parole. I think the maximum sentence here is 25 years at a time. If after review the person seems okay they could be back out. If they seem dangerous they could stay in prison. I'm not sure how this part works myself, maybe it's due to multiple counts adding up. So anyway, I guess I'm saying there's little chance the suspect could be in prison for the rest of his life. It could happen, but it's rare in Canada.
I agree it's miserable what the shooter did... and my God, a 13 year old? What on earth makes someone want to murder a kid? It's something I may never understand. It's also very baffling why the shooter moved from the residence to the school. I wonder if they'll ever tell us when this goes to trial. It reminds me of the Newton shooting case to some degree. Thank God he didn't take as many young lives as the Newton shooter did. But four people died, others were injured (two critically at least) and this is... I think... maybe the worst school shooting incident since the Montreal shooting in 1989. Something needs to be done to bring justice to these victims and their families.
It breaks my heart the way Natives have been treated for the last decade (and beyond, of course) by our former government. I know Trudeau has pledged to help the First Nations people, and I hope he holds true and starts with this community in particular. They could obviously benefit from some funding and resources in the mental health field.
I think this kid will probably be charged as an adult. A first degree murder conviction will bring an automatic 25 year sentence and even though he may get parole after 25 years if convicted he will always be under the control of the criminal justice system. Under the Harper government the faint hope clause was done away with. Something was also enacted I thought that dealt with multiple murders but I am not sure what that is.
I agree that this suspect will most likely be charged as an adult, due to age being seventeen and the seriousness of these crimes. I mean, after a certain age even little children understand that murder is wrong.
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Due to the severity of the crime and number of dead and wounded I think he is definitely going to be denied parole every time it comes up. If he had only killed one person he would likely be out in 10-20 years due to his age, it's frustrating here in Canada sometimes. But once in a while you see how they really can keep some people in jail forever. Paul Bernardo is a great example of that. He will never ever ever get out. I think Luca Magnotta will end up with a similar fate... (Hopefully). So this boy could definitely be looking at that future, provided he is charged as an adult. Being 17, that seems quite likely.