NY-LI 10 bodies found on Beach-Poss. SrlKlr-12/10-4 id'd; more found 3/11 #8

Just K said:

About MP, "Shannan's driver": It is only from MP that we are told that he knew SG from her days at the James Bond Entertainment (escort) company. For all we know he is lying about this and/or about other details or even about everything having to do with that evening.
We just don't know if anything that Mr P reported on is accurate. He has a history of being a very shady character who is obviously motivated by the almighty dollar.

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internetgirl101 said:

I remember someone posted here bringing up the idea of the serial killer being a dog catcher, maybe because of the truck on OP?? Well, I came across this:

Sorry if this has been posted already..

http://www.peoplefinders.com/search...perty-address&addr=47 lamar st&zip=&city=west babylon&state=NY
http://www.peoplefinders.com/search...e=property-address&addr=47 lamar st&city=west babylon&state=NY&zip=

It's so frustrating how many coincidences there are..47 Larboard/47 Lamar

Wonder what that place is there...Google maps shows lots of trucks, buildings..

And the Babylon Dog Shelter is right near there...? In ALC's town? And he also lived in Buffalo, NY - MB's town? Wonder if he lived in CT? or ME? or NJ?

Also there is an Adult Entertainment Co on the next block - X Dreams or something..


This site says he uses all different aliases - What for?

http://www.peoplefinders.com/search...utm_campaign=multiple&utm_content=viewdetails

Sorry, this guy CPH or PCH, or whatever he wants to call himself...He just rubs me the wrong way..no pun intended.

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Chanler said:

Hi, MrsPC. A link is not necessarily a lead. And this link is of doubtful solidity: By multiple accounts, Shannan was clearly irrational after she left her Craigslist job. And that irrationality was consistent with the mental health and drug problems that her own family have mentioned.

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Mountain_Kat said:

I have no idea what SG's medical history is/was, so I'm not inclined to jump to the conclusion that, simply because she had been diagnosed as having bi-polar disorder, that somehow must have contributed to her unusual behavior the night she went missing. A far more likely scenario, in my mind anyway, is that her strange behavior was due to intoxication.

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Chanler said:

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1. Brewer's car and house were searched without a warrant. Several cases show that forensics evidence can survive cleaning. Apparently, no such evidence was found.

ONE of Brewers's houses were searched - IN DECEMBER 2010, and ONE of his cars...2. Noting that Shannan was bipolar and, according to her sister, sometimes delusional is not "switching things around." Your conjuring up a mass murder charge, on the other hand, requires leaping to suppositions.

Ok, you lost me there...was I conjuring up mass murder charges? Was that how it sounded? If so, I'm sorry.

3. Brewer had no way to know how long this specific police response would take. He would almost certainly know that he was known by his near neighbors and that Shannan's hired driver would also be searching for her.

4. All the victims were not known to be drug addicts. That Shannan had cocaine and prescription drug problems is, however, particularly relevant because it provides a probable explanation for the behavior described by Brewer, the driver, and the old man and the woman who Gilbert encountered.

I think we agree on that point.
5. Early news reports are not always the most reliable. For example, early reports about the specifics of the Bin Laden raid were incorrect in several specifics.

Hi, twocuriouscats. Thanks for your note. Starting from the bottom, then jumping up top.

5. Now let me get this straight, later reports are less reliable than early reports, but this early report can't be trusted because it was so early?

1. The police have stated that Brewer cooperated fully with them.

2. You are most certainly charging Brewer with multiple murders by associating him with the killing fields. Obviously, "charging" need not be judicial; it can simply mean "accusing."

3. If by MP, you mean the driver, nothing he has said indicates that he saw or thought that Shannan had been hurt or endangered by Brewer. In fact, it was his exasperation with Gilbert's behavior, not anything Brewer did that finally caused his exasperated exit to his car. That he had previously been a witness to her mood swings has also been established.

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Aleph said:

She may also have had PTSD. She had a steel plate in her jaw due to previous abuse, and prostitution involves having sex with people when one may be feeling...(trying to think how to put this)...less-than-enthusiastic consent, often in scary situations.

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1. Head & hands found on March 29th belong to slain prostitute Jessica Taylor whose body was found in 2003 in Manorville.
2. Head & hands & right foot found on April 4th belong to the other woman victim found in that same stretch of woods in Manorville.
3. The toddlers body found was female about 18 to 24 months. Not ruled a homicide yet.
4. Man's body found on April 4th was Asian, in late teens/early 20's and his death is ruled a homicide but "radically different".

Mountain_Kat said:

Delusions and paranoia are not a given for all people diagnosed with bi-polar disorder. Additionally, there are many different kinds of bi-polar disorder, some are more high functioning than others.

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/bipolar-disorder/DS00356

I have no idea what SG's medical history is/was, so I'm not inclined to jump to the conclusion that, simply because she had been diagnosed as having bi-polar disorder, that somehow must have contributed to her unusual behavior the night she went missing. A far more likely scenario, in my mind anyway, is that her strange behavior was due to intoxication.

1). We have a source close to the case stating that JB and SG left the house in a vehicle together for about 15 minutes. This could very well have been a drug run.

2). We have SG placing a call to a CVS pharmacy shortly before making a barrage of calls to her driver.

3). We have JB himself saying that SG went into the bathroom, and when she came out she was acting strange. I assume from this statement, that she hadn't been acting overly strange prior to that.

Now, both MP and JB have plenty of reason to lie about the events that transpired that night...prostitution and illicit drug use are both illegal activities. But there are some whopping grains of truth in their statements, imo. My personal feeling is that JB and SG did, in fact, go on a drug run and that this is what triggered SG's out of control behavior. Either JB slipped SG something, and she freaked out because she thought she had been drugged, or something she took voluntarily reacted badly with other medications she was taking. I believe that is what prompted her call to CVS. IF Shannan thought that JB (or some other party) had drugged her, her fear that someone was trying to kill her makes perfect sense to me.

JMO

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minazoe said:

they need to get real...while I may believe the Asian man is not involved...and possibly even the baby...
to think there are two serial killers is proposterous.... are we to beleive that this ungoldly strip of land is a body dump for killers everywhere? that we could do a random check at almost any place in the USA and find 10 bodies in various stages of decomp at any given time?

I can't believe that. can you?

come on....no no no...

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Seaslug44 said:

http://www.newsday.com/news/breaking/da-more-than-one-gilgo-killer-1.2865686

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svpernin said:

I need to re-research the Manorville case now... but my thinking at the moment is that they are all connected and LE better be combing the Pine Barrens like crazy now because this person or persons seem to be very comfortable with both these areas.

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