I don't know that's my question considering it was Filomena that insisted the door be broken down after Amanda claimed that Meredith often locked her door.
That's a serious hole in the guilt scenario. I hope someone has an answer.
I don't know that's my question considering it was Filomena that insisted the door be broken down after Amanda claimed that Meredith often locked her door.
As for the bbm part:
The Perugian doctor who does the climb has a foothold on the lower window all the time:
Also, obviously his hands are on top of the windowsill when he hoists himself up:
I'm not sure I understand what do you mean by saying that what the video shows is impossible when it's clearly demonstrated to be possible, even easy.
Let's assume it is impossible, for the sake of discussion: does it mean you also think the guy demonstrating the climb is suspended by invisible wires or supported by some hidden platform, like Otto suggested?
It is indeed difficult to believe that so many professionals would have been paid off to make a deceptive film.You avoided that part of my question:
You're not seriously saying he wouldn't be able to go into the window from that position if not for the bars that block the way?
At what moment again? He hoists himself up and lowers himself back without any cuts.
Of course you don't. You would have to come up with something plausible and that's not easy to do.
At least you don't say he was suspended on hidden wires, like Otto does.
What you suggest however is seriously unethical and deceptive. It's hard to imagine why would a British TV station pay for something like this. It's hard to imagine all these people would willingly take part in it without protests. Especially the Perugian doctor that does the demonstration and is identified by name in the video.
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Exactly! Why? I don't understand the argument that they were waiting for Filomena to come. Why wait for her, attracting significant suspicion with inconsistent behavior? Why not ask the cops or the two boyfriends that arrived to break the door?
I don't know, Katody. That's why I'm saying it's completely useless, because it is. It doesn't clarify things for me at all.
Look at the picture. Okay, his foot is on the bottom ledge thing. He is holding the upper sill by his fingers. Let's say he pushes up through his feet, using the bottom ledge to push off. He still needs to pull himself up using the strength in his arms. It's not like a swimming pool, where you have the whole of the concrete to support your arms as you hoist up. He does not have the upper windowsill in a position to support his arms. He is hanging, he needs to PULL HIMSELF UP. His arms are outstretched above him. That means he needs to PULL HIS ARMS UP. That means he needs to PULL HIS BODYWEIGHT UP.
Without showing it the whole way through, the point when he actually get himself up onto the windowill, how do we know whether he did or not??
You avoided that part of my question:
You're not seriously saying he wouldn't be able to go into the window from that position if not for the bars that block the way?
At what moment again? He hoists himself up and lowers himself back without any cuts.
Of course you don't. You would have to come up with something plausible and that's not easy to do.
At least you don't say he was suspended on hidden wires, like Otto does.
What you suggest however is seriously unethical and deceptive. It's hard to imagine why would a British TV station pay for something like this. It's hard to imagine all these people would willingly take part in it without protests. Especially the Perugian doctor that does the demonstration and is identified by name in the video.
If you don't know a murder has taken place, in a cottage full of women, where else do you think she reasonably thought the blood came from? I think her thinking was totally believable.
The ministrations the prosecution has gone through to put AK and RS in the murder scene is what isn't believable.
Because it's on the video in full? How can you say it's not shown? The single, uninterrupted take of the video from 1:30 to 1:50 is showing just that in detail.
He pulls himself up and then pushes himself above the windowsill. One single video take.
:facepalm:
Katody
Here is my answer. IF he were able to make it up on the ledge WITHOUT using the bars, from there he would be able to get in the window.
I am completely SERIOUS when I say I DON'T believe he was able to reach the ledge in this way. The camera does in fact cut away and not show it. If IMO he made it freely without the use of the bars, there was no reason to cut away from him doing so.
The video shows him reaching the windowsill without problem. There is one single take from 1:30 to 1:50 showing it. What cut are you talking about? Could you give a timestamp?
Ok just past the 1:47 mark he reaches the ledge with his hands and attempts to pull himself up.
He fails and lowers himself back down.
The camera moves from him to the lawyers
The next time the show him, he is sitting on the ledge holding the bars.
The video DOES NOT show him actually hoisting himself up without the bars. Period.
They leave this thought to their viewers.
You believe it and I don't and I am completely serious.
Additionally, as I pointed out yesterday, there's nothing for him to stand on when he's at the left side of Filomina's window. The window below is only under the right side of Filomina's window. There's something very fishy about the video. The words suggest that it's no problem for someone to climb to the window without bars, but that is never demonstrated. When he's holding himself up with four fingers, the rest of his body appears to be simply floating, not braced against the wall preventing a fall.
It seems to be a situation of "believe what I say, not what you see". There would be no reason to edit the footage if what is claimed is actually possible. The truth is that even a climbing enthusiast could not scale the wall without using the newly installed bars.
Let's just say for a moment that the video might be misleading - intentionally or not.
Whether or not it is, is there anyone here who would still believe the burglary had been simulated, if it could in fact be proven that Guede could climb in that window (let's say Mignini made a film showing Guede scaling it and making it in).
Ok just past the 1:47 mark he reaches the ledge with his hands and attempts to pull himself up.
He fails and lowers himself back down.
Aaah I see now.
So you consider this a fail:
In your opinion there's no way he would be able to enter the window from this position if the bars were not in the way. Do I understand you correctly?
Are you under the impression that RG went from this position to inside the house?
It's not that simple
Yes right after that mark the climber LOWERS himself back down and the camera cuts to the lawyers.
At the 1:50 1:51 mark.
That's not really an answer to my question:
In your opinion there's no way he would be able to enter the window from this position if the bars were not in the way? What should he do from that point to make you believe it's possible that he didn't do?
I think from that position it's trivial to either go inside or squat or sit on the windowsill given there are no bars blocking the window.
I have answered you, my word.
What should he do from what point? He has yet to prove to me the climb can even be made freely.
Do I think RG sat on the window sill the way the climber did before climbing in? NO
The window still had to be unlatched or something similar by reaching in. There was glass all over the window sill and none brushed off/fallen on the ground. I don't think RG was on that window ledge.
I DO NOT believe the climber reached the ledge without the use of the bars and the video is NOT prove that it's possible. IMO.