OR - Kyron Horman, 7 yo Second grader, Portland, 4 June 2010 - Part #2

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I don't do FB or MS or I wouldn't mind. I would assume someone within the family or close to the family would do this as they would have more detailed info to include.

Yes, I know what you're saying, but the family and close friends are quite upset right now, you know? That's when people like you and me can jump in and do something to help.



BUMPING

There are two facebook pages.

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We are convening a team of school district leaders, including deputy superintendents, principals and school security services, as well as leaders of the Portland Association of Teachers, to review arrival and dismissal practices and identify ways we can ensure a smooth, well-coordinated transition of student supervision between families and teachers at the beginning and end of the school day.

As part of this effort, we will review our visitor sign-in practices for school events that invite large numbers of family members and community members into our schools.

We will continue to hope for Kyron Horman’s safe and speedy return to his family. In the meantime, Portland Public Schools will continue to do everything we can to aid law enforcement in this investigation and make every effort possible to ensure that students are closely supervised and monitored throughout the day at all our schools."
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http://www.koinlocal6.com/mostpopul...Security-Parental/sZ0OWbTr_USZ1ODaLKLPHw.cspx
 
Looks like the backpack info came from family and "others" not LE. Interesting to me that his class is on the second floor, because I'd been picturing him being left somewhere that would be relatively near to an outside entrance.

Thank you. So let's assume Kyron's belongings WERE found in the classroom at the end of the day, as the family says. The teacher helps the kids get ready to meet to bus, makes sure everyone has their coats/backpacks. If Kyron's belongings were there, but he was not, why wouldn't the teacher call a parent? It was Friday. I would think he would at least need his coat over the weekend, if not his backpack as well. You'd think she'd call a parent and say, "Hey, you forgot to take Kyron's things with you this morning when you left. Are you going to come back to get them before we all leave today?" The school has an after school program until 6:00 p.m. so someone would have been there up until that time to return his things.

But nada. That school is completely irresponsible if Kyron's things were indeed there at he end of the day.
 
I suppose LE also could want school open to see who, if anyone, does not show up, adult-wise.
 
The one thing that I'm finding most bizarre in all the details of this case is the quote from the step-grandmother in this article http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/details_emerge_about_the_day_k.html (link already posted many times): It will be difficult to give him the news, Moulton said (referring to Kyron's 16 year old stepbrother who lives with her, and was away on a Boy Scout camping trip with his father for the weekend).

Hellloooooo! FBI specialists are being flown in from all around the country, the local sheriff's department is working this case 24/7, and no one has contacted the stepbrother? Where's this camping trip? Antarctica? There's absolutely no way any Boy Scout group is going anywhere for a weekend, that they couldn't be reached pretty easily. Possibly out of cell phone range, but if so, then almost certainly one of the leaders is carrying a satellite phone in case of life-threatening emergency. And if agents can be flown across the country to get on the case, obviously somebody can hop in a helicopter and go pay a visit to this Boy Scout group if there's really no phone contact at all.

It seems very likely that Kyron and his older stepbrother spend at least some time together, and the stepbrother should have been on the very short list of people interviewed *immediately* to find out if Kyron had said anything to anybody that might provide a clue. Maybe something that sounded like idle fantasy at the time, but now that he's disappeared would sound potentially like a real plan or experience.

It strikes me as so incredibly unlikely that investigators haven't already spoken to the stepbrother, that I'm thinking maybe they have, and just haven't shared that fact with the stepgrandmother (and maybe not with Kyron's father, stepmother, or mother, either). Which makes me wonder if the stepgrandmother is on the suspect list. She might not be happy that her daughter is so involved in raising her stepchild Kyron, but is less involved in raising her own son, who is currently living with his grandparents.

Also, along the lines that Dragonfly1971 has mentioned in a couple of posts, as far as I've seen there's been no confirmation that anyone actually saw the stepmother leaving the school, much less saw her leaving the school *alone*. That's odd. Because with all the extra people who were around that morning, including other parents who'd come in for the early morning science fair set-up and would have been leaving around the same time. It may be that investigators already have this information from witnesses to her departure and are withholding it for some reason. But it's a gaping hole in the fairly detailed story we've heard so far -- just like the gaping hole (at least according to the stepgrandmohter) of the 16 year old stepbrother not having been questioned yet.
 
PS- Stepmom may have called school before teacher had a chance to call them about backpack, if it was there. Teachers have a lot to do in classrooms at end of day and even more, at end of the week.

Again, I am waiting to see for sure that stepmom was not last person seen with Kyron and that is why teacher made assumption they left. Probably still was careless, but not insanely so, as many seem to suggest here. I am not ready to jump on school or parent at this time.
 
Since it is such a small school, I wonder if they just don't have the resources for 2 separate schools (buses, custodial staff, etc.). Lots of private schools are K-8, so it's not exactly unheard of. Actually, when I was in school it was K-7 and then we went to high school in 8th grade. Talk about a bad mix! I was the last 8th grade class that did that in our area, but it wasn't exactly "the olden days" either. :blushing:

A small school but in a huge school district.

Portland Oregon school district.
 
well the celtics beat the lakers so now lets find kyron and make this a total win :)
 
Yes, we talked about it a few pages back, or maybe in part #1. It was dismissed as rumor and hearsay.

Actually I find alot of comments made at the beginning of cases in articles to be true later on in the case.But you never know,as of now we don't know what is rumor and hearsay.
 
Thank you. So let's assume Kyron's belongings WERE found in the classroom at the end of the day, as the family says. The teacher helps the kids get ready to meet to bus, makes sure everyone has their coats/backpacks. If Kyron's belongings were there, but he was not, why wouldn't the teacher call a parent? It was Friday. I would think he would at least need his coat over the weekend, if not his backpack as well. You'd think she'd call a parent and say, "Hey, you forgot to take Kyron's things with you this morning when you left. Are you going to come back to get them before we all leave today?" The school has an after school program until 6:00 p.m. so someone would have been there up until that time to return his things.

But nada. That school is completely irresponsible if Kyron's things were indeed there at he end of the day.

I'm a teacher. Sometimes kids leave early with their parents and don't take their stuff, especially towards the end of the year when they may not have much homework.
 
Good point about contacting the stepbrother. They certainly should have.

And if at this point LE is not sure that it's an abduction, really, what else could it be???
 
Actually I find alot of comments made at the beginning of cases in articles to be true later on in the case.But you never know,as of now we don't know what is rumor and hearsay.

I know, but that same comment was already deleted from here at least once already. I don't think we're supposed to c/p comments here.
 
If not an abduction, they may be thinking he left with family and something happened to him off-premises. And that could be why they are clearing the premises of the school to re-open as usual. Again, just answering a question as to what it could besides an abduction. I am still of the opinion that reponsible LE, and this seems to be, would not pretend and cover up a possible abduction simply to "not frighten the abductor" as has been suggested, that would be irresponsible to do. I believe that they believe that something happned to Kyron away from school and not by a stranger.
 
Just thinking about that poor little fella and how happy he must've been to show his awesome science project that day. :(
 
Just thinking about that poor little fella and how happy he must've been to show his awesome science project that day. :(

It's heartbreaking that that bright-eyed little guy with the big smile just vanished.
Will keep hoping & praying he's found safe, soon.

A red-eyed tree frog for Kyron.
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