Trial - Ross Harris #4

RANCH said:

Yes. Cooper could have been awake but lethargic and then fell asleep.

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He also could have ​ been wide awake

Hiya, Hope4More,

If you are not one, you should become an attorney b/c, girlfriend, you do enjoy a good argument. I adore the way you pepper your statements with dramatic flair. I am premed, but still read your passionate arguments.

RSBM for focus

Hope4More said:

The interview with Stoddard began less than two hours after Ross Harris pulled the body of his dead baby out of the car, and before he was even allowed to speak to his wife, who, thanks to LE, was forced to find out her baby had died from a television newsflash.

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A little over two years ago, when I was still watching TV, the crime scene at Akers Mill was filmed live by HLN. Media had eyes and ears on the ground and eyes in the sky. I was shocked to see the father of the dead little boy pacing around the scene, holding his phone to his ear.

During that live breaking news HLN telecast, JRH appeared to abandon his child on the pavement when he walked away with his phone to his ear. It doesn't matter if he was trying to call God on his smart phone. JRH, nevertheless, should have been with and overseeing his little buddy's care but, no, he dreaded how Cooper would look.

Ross called LHs phone and hung up the call before dialing LAA. It is not LEOs fault how Leeanna learned of Cooper's death. Ross made his 'discovery' of Cooper around the time that Leeanna was due to pick up Cooper at LAA.
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Adding to my list of what I think Leanna might testify to on the stand:


1. She told RH on the night of the 17th that she wasn't thrilled with him going to the movies with his work friends, because she felt he hadn't been spending enough time with Cooper. He had responded by telling her he would make it up to Cooper by taking him to one of their dad-son breakfasts at CFA ( explaining "coincidence" of CFA breakfast that morning).

2. That Cooper often fell asleep quickly in the car, and hadn't slept well for 2 nights before the 18th.

3. That she and RH had ongoing problems in their marriage, but both were equally adamant to keep working on it , because of their faith and because neither wanted to harm Cooper.

4. That RH had been depressed in May (the month in which he sent the exactly one text ever that could be interpreted as hostile towards Cooper) after not receiving a promotion and being turned down at CFA, and he had been irritable because of feeling depressed, but that had passed.

dedee said:

hiya, hope4more,

if you are not one, you should become an attorney b/c, girlfriend, you do enjoy a good argument. I adore the way you pepper your statements with dramatic flair. I am premed, but still read your passionate arguments.

rsbm for focus


a little over two years ago, when i was still watching tv, the crime scene at akers mill was filmed live by hln. Media had eyes and ears on the ground and eyes in the sky. I was shocked to see the father of the dead little boy pacing around the scene, holding his phone to his ear.

During that live breaking news hln telecast, jrh appeared to abandon his child on the pavement when he walked away with his phone to his ear. It doesn't matter if he was trying to call god on his smart phone. Jrh, nevertheless, should have been with and overseeing his little buddy's care but, no, he dreaded how cooper would look.

Ross called lhs phone and hung up the call before dialing laa. It is not leos fault how leeanna learned of cooper's death. Ross made his 'discovery' of cooper around the time that leeanna was due to pick up cooper at laa.
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^^^^^^^^^^. Yes!!!!!!!

You wouldn't have been able to get my kid out of my arms. I would be draped over him and not letting anyone touch him once pronounced. I wouldn't even know where my phone was

Zoobiegirl said:

Peach, why did you think he might be compared to Furman as early as that? I really haven't paid much attention to this case prior to the trial so just wondering what I'd missed.

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I have been following this case from day 1. For those of us who have been following the case and watching the pre-trial hearings, LE 's missstatements were obvious before the trial began. The DT had hit LE's mischaracterizations hard in the media so it wasn't a surprise that they dismantled the witnesses during the trial.

katydid23 said:

True. At this point, even though I believe that he 'probably' did this ugly thing impulsively , spur of the moment.... I have not seen 100% iron clad proof that he did so.

At this point I would lean towards Negligence.

But I don't think that a sleeping baby automatically makes him innocent either. JMO

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Is 100% iron clad proof required? I thought you just needed beyond a 'reasonable' doubt.

Please move over to thread #5. This one will close in 10 minutes. I'll bring some posts over.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?320192-Trial-Ross-Harris-5

Thank you

DeDee said:

Hiya, Hope4More,

If you are not one, you should become an attorney b/c, girlfriend, you do enjoy a good argument. I adore the way you pepper your statements with dramatic flair. I am premed, but still read your passionate arguments.

RSBM for focus


A little over two years ago, when I was still watching TV, the crime scene at Akers Mill was filmed live by HLN. Media had eyes and ears on the ground and eyes in the sky. I was shocked to see the father of the dead little boy pacing around the scene, holding his phone to his ear.

During that live breaking news HLN telecast, JRH appeared to abandon his child on the pavement when he walked away with his phone to his ear. It doesn't matter if he was trying to call God on his smart phone. JRH, nevertheless, should have been with and overseeing his little buddy's care but, no, he dreaded how Cooper would look.

Ross called LHs phone and hung up the call before dialing LAA. It is not LEOs fault how Leeanna learned of Cooper's death. Ross made his 'discovery' of Cooper around the time that Leeanna was due to pick up Cooper at LAA.
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LOL. Busted. I do indeed enjoy a good argument- it's my favorite intellectual sport, always has been. My DH has told me for 21 years I should have been a lawyer, but one in the family is enough, and I've been fortunate enough to have had other professional opportunities to argue and persuade to my heart's content.

It's interesting, your take on the visual of that newscast. I wonder how many others thought it hinky RH was in his phone. Stoddard sure did, lol. I just don't.

I consider his actions as triage, what a person might do if in shock. He had tried CPR, but he knew immediately Cooper had been in the car all day and had to be dead. He AND that good Samaritan laid Cooper on the pavement because it was the closest place to lay him down and tending to Cooper was as urgent as it gets.

RH didn't walk away until the GS had taken over CPR, but he already knew it was hopeless. He saw bystanders on their phones and knew at least one (and up to 4) were calling 911.

What should his priority have been at that point? I think it's entirely understandable that he felt frantic to reach Leanna, his wife, Cooper's mother, because he knew for a fact she would panic, immediately, when she went to pick up Cooper and he wasn't there. Imo,it would have been disturbing if he DIDN'T try to do that.

And, I do think it was LE's fault Leanna found out the way she did. I think it was cruel that LE didn't allow RH to try calling her again, or if that was a bridge too far, then called Leanna themselves.

Closing up now