NY-LI 10 bodies found on Beach-Poss. SrlKlr-12/10-4 id'd; more found 3/11 #8

goathairjones said:

ItalianBella,

It is such a beautiful place! I have lived here all my life. But the people are what makes Oak Beach creepy!!

For them not to have any compassion for that family is just so sad. All they care about down there is their property value. Oak Beach is the quintessential "It's all about me" community. They should have rallied around that family and said that they would help to solve this mystery. Somebody saw something that night and they aren't telling anyone because they are scared that it will hit them in the pocket if the truth comes out.

There is a killer living in that community and the rest of the community should smoke him out! Or they may be his next victim!

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Reannan said:

Shadow.... I actually think the postings on the "weirdness" thread are pertinent to this case. And I don't really find it offensive, and I don't think I would if I lived there. Then again, I live in the South, and we take a lot of hits about all sort of preconceptions regarding the people and the places that I call family and home. In this current case, even the experts have said that the physical nature of Oak Beach might help to explain the NUMEROUS bodies that have been dumped there. That is a strange, and weird thing indeed!!! There IS something strange about that part of the world because a lot of bodies - and body parts - have been dumped there for YEARS and no one noticed them until Shannon Gilbert had a horrible experience there. We still don't know the rest of that story, but I am willing to bet the ending is going to be as strange as anything else we have heard about Oak Beach.

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shadowraiths said:

Thanks, Reannan. I contacted the mods, and they changed the title to something less pejorative.

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dcgrumpy said:

The original digital comp for the mural had 12 skulls http://www.bragino.com/

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Pinkhammer said:

I went to his Flickr site and the first thing I see is a bloody lady with a gag in her mouth!

Drawing of Bianca | Flickr - Photo Sharing!

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Reannan said:

Yep.... he and his partner do a lot of "LIVE" art sessions where the women sort of end up looking creepy, and often bloody. The thing is, I think you could find the same thing with a lot of artist. In this case, they painted a mural with 10 skulls on a tunnel near the location where 10 bodies were found, and they both have connections to the local area. If I were a detective working on this case, I would chat them up because at least it is something. Since they are probably completely innocent, they will perhaps use the experience to inspire some new art project.

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ItalinBella27 said:

goathairjones,


Shadowraiths, Reannan & Susan,
Thank you, but I wasn't offended.
I thought the story was interesting. Beach communities often put large rocks and dump all sorts of things to create artifical reefs for protection.
Susan, the water is very deep, you would never see them unless you dive.

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Reannan said:

Yep.... he and his partner do a lot of "LIVE" art sessions where the women sort of end up looking creepy, and often bloody. The thing is, I think you could find the same thing with a lot of artist. In this case, they painted a mural with 10 skulls on a tunnel near the location where 10 bodies were found, and they both have connections to the local area. If I were a detective working on this case, I would chat them up because at least it is something. Since they are probably completely innocent, they will perhaps use the experience to inspire some new art project.

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Pinkhammer said:

...he calls "Secret Slumber"?

Also on Flickr his photos are dated and a place is given. He goes to LI a lot.

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Reannan said:

:floorlaugh: That comment struck me as funny!!! That would be WAY too over the top!!! This whole case has been filled with a lot of strange coincidences and bizarre stories. It is more like a Stephen King novel than a True Crime case, except for the fact that there are real people involved. Regarding the mural - it is creepy given the context of where it is located. The two artist that created it are intriguing.... I am a bit surprised they can afford a gallery as nice as the one they seem to have on Manhattan Ave. in Brooklyn. They sort of redefine the concept of 'starving artist'. I fully support the arts - in fact, I am actually involved in the arts, and I am really open minded about things. The video about their art gallery was really interesting, and looked like a place I would probably go hang out (scroll down the page at the link below). I am curious about one thing, however... what the heck is that thing that the artist is using to practice his "tattoo" skills on at about 10:30 and again at about 18:10 into the video??? It looks like a pigs foot or something! Any ideas what it is?? Just curious......

http://www.bragino.com/blog/page/2

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truthspider said:

"Debunking" suspects & theories​

The organized crime hits/slave ring theory - I understand why some might entertain this thought, but I think if you look at the specific stats of the victims: White, young, small statured, drug addicted, mostly not from the immediate area, used craigslist, etc. you would agree that someone is targeting a specific type of victim. If the victims were wacked/killed for business reasons the victims would have a diverse range of age, race, size etc. If it was motivated by business, it would be more or less a random sampling from the population of sex workers, and that random sample would not be all white etc.

MP as suspect - It has been documented in the media that MP returned to oak beach to look for SG after he found out that she never made it home, and then went to the SCPD presinct to file a missing persons report, I must assume the police checked the integrity of that claim because interaction with the police is documented. I don't believe he could be responsible for what happened to her since he returned to Oak Beach and went to the police to report her missing.

Theory that Manorville killer is different from the killer of the original Gilgo 4 - I still have a hard time believing the DA or anyone is this stupid, I think the claim is a ruse. I see nothing strange about a SK changing the way he operates over a decade. Also, being from LI, I think the probability of 2 SK's using ocean parkway is much more UNLIKELY than people think it is. The truth is there are Hundreds (I would even say an uncountable amount) of woodsy locations on LI suitable for disposal. It is perfectly logical to say the probability of 1 SK changing details of his kill over a decade is MUCH MUCH higher than the probability of 2 prostitute killing SK's dumping within hundreds of yards of each other on an Island that is 1,401 square miles.


The Mural Artist
To a hammer everything looks like a nail, if you sleuth every detail about anyone you will think you see "creepiness" or a potential subject. There is no reason to be concerned about a painter who likes to paint girls, etc. I agree he is the victim of 1 (emphasis on 1) unfortunate coincidence: skulls in painting.

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dcgrumpy said:

Really? There are hundreds of woodsy areas that a body won't be discovered because no one walks through the area?

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dcgrumpy said:

Really? There are hundreds of woodsy areas that a body won't be discovered because no one walks through the area?

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truthspider said:

yes. I think anyone from LI on this forum would agree.

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truthspider said:

"no one walking through the area" is not a requirement of the SKs choice in dumping ground. savethebeaches.net (Mrs CPH organization) walks through the area every year where the 10 remains were found.

and this fellow just last June explored and documented on film/photos exactly where some of the remains were found: http://massapequa.patch.com/articles/photo-tour-john-f-kennedy-memorial-wildlife-sanctuary
(his videos and photos should give you an idea of what the terrain looked like last June, foliage etc) should he be a suspect? He probably also watches Dexter, but that doesn't make him a POI.

there probably isn't a square foot of land on LI that hasn't been explored at some point by someone, but that doesnt mean there aren't hundreds (if not thousands) of locations equally as sufficient as Manorville and Ocean Parkway to dispose of a body. So I'm sorry to the silly DA, but manorville and the gilgo 4 are the same perp. I bet that DA plays lotto....

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