MA MA - Boston, Neponset Marsh, WhtFem UnkAge, UP16762, 3 rings incl/spoon, bracelets, Mar'82

Romulus · Jun 28, 2017

Namus UP 16762

https://www.identifyus.org/en/cases/16762

Unidentified Body/Remains (White Female)

Found March 11, 1982 in Suffolk County, MA
Body Condition: Not recognizable - Decomposing/putrefaction
Probable year of death: to

Vital Statistics
Estimated age: Unknown Age
Approximate Height: 61 estimate
Approximate Weight: 95 estimate
Hair Color: "head is covered by black hair."
"Shoulder length" (EMS Report)
Eye Color: "Eyes appear to be brown.''
Scars and marks: nothing

Clothing & Accessories

Clothing: Red "pullover" shirt
Jewerly: "three rings on right hand, two bracelets on the right arm, spoon ring on little finger."
Footwear: nothing
Accessories: nothing

Identifiers
Fingerprints: Fingerprint information is not available
Dentals: Dental information / charting is available and will be entered later
DNA: Sample is currently not available

Case History: In Neponset Marsh

carbuff · Jun 29, 2017

"Sterling" probably isn't a name, it's more likely an identifier for the quality of the silver the ring is made of. So real silver, not a cheap knockoff.

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Alleykins · Jun 29, 2017

I'm thinking (more like hoping) that she should have fingerprints if they are able to discern eye color?

Peppered_peach · Jun 29, 2017

carbuff said:
"Sterling" probably isn't a name, it's more likely an identifier for the quality of the silver the ring is made of. So real silver, not a cheap knockoff.

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I think the "sterling" ring might possibly be missing a piece. It looks like a cameo ring. Something maybe similar to this. (Hopefully this link posts, I don't know how to add pics to a post)

http://cdn3.volusion.com/p47su.y695r/v/vspfiles/photos/9823309-2.jpg

Alleykins · Jun 29, 2017

Here's one possibility: http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/t/tetreault_doris.html
Since there's no age listed, it's possibly her, as she has black hair.

Alleykins · Jun 29, 2017

Does anyone know why they wouldn't be able to determine age, not even from the teeth?

carbuff · Jun 29, 2017

Peppered_peach said:
I think the "sterling" ring might possibly be missing a piece. It looks like a cameo ring. Something maybe similar to this. (Hopefully this link posts, I don't know how to add pics to a post)

http://cdn3.volusion.com/p47su.y695r/v/vspfiles/photos/9823309-2.jpg

Yeah, or it could have had a stone in it. I have a very similar ring with a malachite cabachon; other popular stones at the time were turquoise, coral, and mother of pearl.

The photo posted just fine, btw.

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Alleykins · Jun 29, 2017

carbuff said:
Yeah, or it could have had a stone in it. I have a very similar ring with a malachite cabachon; other popular stones at the time were turquoise, coral, and mother of pearl.

The photo posted just fine, btw.
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I was thinking mood ring LOL

MelmothTheLost · Jun 29, 2017

carbuff said:
"Sterling" probably isn't a name, it's more likely an identifier for the quality of the silver the ring is made of. So real silver, not a cheap knockoff.

Sterling silver is 92.5% silver. In the UK it's usually shown as .925 stamped on jewellery.

MelmothTheLost · Jun 29, 2017

carbuff said:
Yeah, or it could have had a stone in it. I have a very similar ring with a malachite cabachon; other popular stones at the time were turquoise, coral, and mother of pearl.

Others I remember being popular in the late 1970s and 1980s were sodalite (blue, poor man's lapis lazuli), aventurine, amethyst, rose quartz, haematite and tiger's eye - all were cut as cabochons.

puzzleme · Jun 29, 2017

The spoon ring was very popular between 76 to around 78. IMO

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MelmothTheLost · Jun 29, 2017

puzzleme said:
The spoon ring was very popular between 76 to around 78. IMO

I had to look up "spoon ring". I don't think I've ever seen them in the UK so maybe they're a US thing.

Alleykins · Jun 29, 2017

MelmothTheLost said:
I had to look up "spoon ring". I don't think I've ever seen them in the UK so maybe they're a US thing.

O ya, spoon rings were really big here in the 70s. We all got them one year for Christmas.

Alleykins · Jun 29, 2017

MelmothTheLost said:
Others I remember being popular in the late 1970s and 1980s were sodalite (blue, poor man's lapis lazuli), aventurine, amethyst, rose quartz, haematite and tiger's eye - all were cut as cabochons.

Turquoise was really popular here in the 70s as well.

Alleykins · Jun 29, 2017

Carbuff, do you know the area in which these remains were found at all? Do you know what's there for businesses or parks & stuff like that? I looked up the Neponset Marsh on Google Maps but only found the river and the street she was found near.

Peppered_peach · Jun 29, 2017

Is there an estimated time of death? I'm new to this and still am unaware how long it would take to get to various degrees of decomposition.

Alleykins · Jun 29, 2017

Peppered_peach said:
Is there an estimated time of death? I'm new to this and still am unaware how long it would take to get to various degrees of decomposition.

Decomp varies by many factors, like climate & weather conditions, and whether or not the person was found on land or in water.
There's no time of death listed, but if they were able to discern eye color, it had to be within weeks, if not days.

Peppered_peach · Jun 29, 2017

Alleykins said:
Decomp varies by many factors, like climate & weather conditions, and whether or not the person was found on land or in water.
There's no time of death listed, but if they were able to discern eye color, it had to be within weeks, if not days.

Thanks for the info. Gonna see if I can help out, I just didn't want to be looking too far back.

Alleykins · Jun 29, 2017

Peppered_peach said:
Thanks for the info. Gonna see if I can help out, I just didn't want to be looking too far back.

Since we don't know the age or actual time of death, there's really no "too far back" :winko:
She may have been a run away from years or decades before.

carbuff · Jun 29, 2017

Alleykins said:
Carbuff, do you know the area in which these remains were found at all? Do you know what's there for businesses or parks & stuff like that? I looked up the Neponset Marsh on Google Maps but only found the river and the street she was found near.

The river is the marsh--it's a tidal estuary. Most of the bodies found in it are dropped off the bridge, but it sounds like she was buried. It's always been popular with organized crime groups. In 1982 and earlier, the Winter Hill gang (Whitey Bulger) disposed of many of their victims there, but she doesn't match any of the known victims.

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