courtneyb
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Haha! I saw Reefer Madness.
Me too. It was fantastic!
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Haha! I saw Reefer Madness.
Haha! I saw Reefer Madness.
I think someone linked up thread that PT's license had been suspended or revoked.
On this note, thinking of the medical examiner and staff who had to perform an autopsy on a previously healthy 5 year old child. I think the ME is often overlooked in homicide cases, but really, the case BEGINS (or ends!) with his/her work. No room for sloppiness or error, and when the decedent is a child who did not die of natural causes, I imagine that it's difficult not to let emotions run wild.It seems there is probably more. I was hoping the autopsy tox tests would be available today.
On this note, thinking of the medical examiner and staff who had to perform an autopsy on a previously healthy 5 year old child. I think the ME is often overlooked in homicide cases, but really, the case BEGINS (or ends!) with his/her work. No room for sloppiness or error, and when the decedent is a child who did not die of natural causes, I imagine that it's difficult not to let emotions run wild.
So, it may be nothing to do with this case but I find it interesting that they were arraigned outside of Pulaski (remember the whole "court on Good Friday" debate?) and now they have a substitute judge. Just...interesting.
I find it reprehensible that nothing seems to talk about either of them showing interest in getting Baby A back. Not that they should have her nor deserve her but so much talk of "normal" life, jobs, bills, where to live, etc and no mention of their other child.
The MSM articles mention PT's attorney saying that PT would lose his house if he is not allowed back to work. Lose his rental house? So he wants to go back to the house where his child died? How could he even think to use the toilet there? And do we really think the landlord is going to be able to rent that place again to someone else anytime soon?
When I first moved to the town I live in, there was a lovely rental house that kept popping up. Curious why it remained unrented for many months in a university town where rentals go fast, I researched it. It had been the site of a horrific murder-suicide. The owner painted, put new carpet in, etc. Nothing could get a renter in to that house.
Interesting, too, that she did not ask to be released to go back to the same house. Because PT would not have here there or b/c she did not want to/could not bring herself to go there?
If she honestly had no idea what happened to Noah and that he had fallen into the tank then she wouldn't have lied about the kids being with her when she'd dropped her husband off at work. The difference in timing is literally night and day! There was much more darkness outside when they left versus when she reported she was asleep. That would make a difference if someone actually took Noah. IMHO, she didn't disclose this initially because she knew he was in the tank where either she or her husband placed him.
Though it's confirmed they left both kids there when they departed that morning, it's not confirmed whether or not Noah was alive at the time they left.
Is it confirmed what time Ashley actually returned?
Also, I wonder about the daughter's "serious respiratory illness" and what caused it.
How can this be referred to as an issue? Their five year old son is dead. How do you resolve that? And get back to a normal life?
But to whom/what cause are the donations going?
And we do know that the lid was on the tank when they found him. Fairly certain Noah didn't replace the lid after he put himself in the tank.
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I have to wonder what they stopped at the convenience store for that morning. That's where they were seen on video, right? What was so important that they risked being caught on video w/o their kids?
I don't know why the lid was not bolted properly, but here is a case where it was not and it shows how easily an accident can happen. The family in the article is trying to warn others about that very danger.:I don't know anything about septic tanks but if Noah fell in by accident then why was the top not screwed down?
:happydance: sorry made me laugh.A few months ago my crazy mother called CPS to report me for letting my oldest stay home alone one weekend.
He's nearly 20 ...
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http://www.wset.com/story/28809827/update-noah-thomas-case-both-parents-bond-hearings-today
"At the afternoon bond hearing for Ashley White, Noah's mother, White's defense team called Dennis Cales to the stand. Cales, White's uncle, told the court he would allow White to live in his home in Giles County. White said his 11-year-old granddaughter lives with him and his wife.
"Putting her into a home with a child is unthinkable at this point," said Judge Karen Loftin, just before ordering White continue to be held without bond.
BBM
Pretty strong statement from the judge. I'd say a true accident is probably pretty low on the list of "What happened here?"
Agreed. PT's charges may be lesser than AW's but his attitude surely stinks.
You are right, tresptip, we do not have confirmation that it was not an accident. He could have fallen in the septic tank...but then someone had to put the lid on before LE arrived.
As for the coffee table example...I respectfully disagree that it is a valid comparison. If a mother is in the home, she might hear the bump or thud, or at least she would surely come upon and find the child passed out within a few minutes. And then a reasonable, responsible reaction would be to call 911 for medical assistance. A child home alone who experiences an accident does not have the benefit of having aid rendered immediately or within a short time after the accident occurs. And a child who experiences an accident wherein the parent fails to call for help at all has virtually no chance.
There is no comparison in these two things. She intentionally made decisions that led to his death. Completely different circumstances.
Exactly! Accidents happen! Responsible or loving or humane people react with trying to help/ get others to help. Especially your child!
So am I to understand that you feel he got in the tank by himself, and was able to pull to tank cover back over in a manner that made it appear untouched? Because I can only see two options. Either he fell in or was tossed in. What is your theory?