Australia Claremont Serial Killer, 1996-1997, Perth, Western Australia - #7 *ARREST*

meticulously said:

Occams razor would point to the license that was found, being the license she was using on the night.
I don't think jr looked underage so doubt that happened.
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Basilisk said:

From personal experience, appearance is not much of a guide!

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phantomm said:

I'll try to clear some queries here.

DM is Deborah Marshall. LB is Lisa Brown. VM is Victor Morey.

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So the list of methods to get birthdates and star signs. Talk about stalking. You would have to find some girls and then start gathering information on each of them. You could probably hang around the Conti and watch for girls who attend regularly. Then, if you can't learn anything from talking to them, look through all those other sources of info mentioned, following them, crossing girls off as they fail your criteria till eventually you narrow it down to a couple. Then you go back one night to see if they turn up so you can abduct them. And maybe that's why there have only been three girls seperated by periods of time. Because of the time required to research each girl.

But I have mentioned previously that someone like a bouncer or even a pretend cop could learn everything they want about a girl by asking to see her ID. But, as with the guy asking for star signs, people will remember a bloke going around asking to see IDs.

Remember, SS chatted to one of the bouncers, because she knew him, on the night she disappeared.

The cops have got it wrong on their page about DM. I actually wrote to them with references to prove the dates were wrong and they told me that the data is loaded by a volunteer and they would get it fixed. That was eight years ago. Also not mentioned about her is that she was supposedly wearing a very valuable necklace when she left home, but it couldn't be found after the fire was put out.

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phantomm said:

I believe VM is responsible for DM. And LB. But there are a lot of variables in this case that need a closer look.

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phantomm said:

Ouch. You're right. My second error for the year.

DA is Debra Anderson. I hope her step mother isn't on here because we are friends.

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meticulously said:

So the details on her page are incorrect ? No necklace pics..

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MyLeftFoot said:

Black Widower Malcolm Webster linked to Australian car fire death

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/44...m-Webster-linked-to-Australian-car-fire-death

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phantomm said:

I'll try to clear some queries here.

DM is Deborah Marshall. LB is Lisa Brown. VM is Victor Morey.

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So the list of methods to get birthdates and star signs. Talk about stalking. You would have to find some girls and then start gathering information on each of them. You could probably hang around the Conti and watch for girls who attend regularly. Then, if you can't learn anything from talking to them, look through all those other sources of info mentioned, following them, crossing girls off as they fail your criteria till eventually you narrow it down to a couple. Then you go back one night to see if they turn up so you can abduct them. And maybe that's why there have only been three girls seperated by periods of time. Because of the time required to research each girl.

But I have mentioned previously that someone like a bouncer or even a pretend cop could learn everything they want about a girl by asking to see her ID. But, as with the guy asking for star signs, people will remember a bloke going around asking to see IDs.

Remember, SS chatted to one of the bouncers, because she knew him, on the night she disappeared.

The cops have got it wrong on their page about DM. I actually wrote to them with references to prove the dates were wrong and they told me that the data is loaded by a volunteer and they would get it fixed. That was eight years ago. Also not mentioned about her is that she was supposedly wearing a very valuable necklace when she left home, but it couldn't be found after the fire was put out.

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JBA512 said:

Were the girls regulars at the conti?

Also CG had not long come back to town so would be a short stalking window

I would lean more towards bouncers/fake cop they would be less memorable as you would brush it off as them doing their job.
Asking about star signs (unless thrown into a convo) would stand out as more odd

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Peter Kurten said:

Ciara Glennon was well known in the area. She was seen leaving at approximately 1200 by a well known family friend who was seated at the Bellissimo restaurant, situated next door from the Continental Hotel. This was how Police eventually made the connection between the sightings on Stirling Highway of a young girl matching Glennon's description.

Many patrons of The Continental were also able to make positive identifications of Glennon, draw from this what you want, but I think this all suggests that she was known to frequent this pub.

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JBA512 said:

Does sound like a regular and being in her late 20's could of had many years frequenting the area.

How long roughly had she been out of town for?
Assuming she wasn't in town when the other 2 were taken.

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JBA512 said:

Does sound like a regular and being in her late 20's could of had many years frequenting the area.

How long roughly had she been out of town for?
Assuming she wasn't in town when the other 2 were taken.

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meticulously said:

This info has been known for 19 years , Theres ciara glennon info links all over here . Try some research before posting [emoji404]


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phantomm said:

Ciara had recently returned from a long overseas holiday.. 3 to 6 months. She was celebrating a colleague's birthday from the Law Firm she worked for.

Her's something I just thought of. If they had crappy CCTV footage of Jane when she was abducted, why isn't there any footage of Ciara in and outside the hotel?

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CSK? said:

Where did the claim of strangled and/or stabbed and body mutilation come from?. is that just a screen grab of a post on some random forum or is there evidence around to back these claims up? The manner of death and the state of a body can give a HUGE amount of information about a killer, My assumptions over the 3 or so years I've followed this case has been that the girls were strangled and dumped, Bart claimed throats slit, I am open to the idea but still would have liked to have seen evidence to back that up too. But if victims did have throats slit, or were mutilated then the killer I've had envisioned just got so much more evil. So can anyone confirm body mutilation, and or cause of deaths?

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meticulously said:

cs? Yes am not sure about entering the topic as it has been discussed before at length , And think its taboo.
It is easy to go to the media/time line thread & navigate to a lot of msn link sources. Everyone must-read it all before the topic of your discussion begins. Check it out #media thread # if you hadn't already.

If that irish times link isnt there let me know.

Previous discussion had some ppl opposed to possible mutilation occurence but others were certain of this having happened .(& I was led to believe it too )
I have wondered if the topic of mutilation is ok to address ? and would rather not mention it here seeing what has been discussed & posted in these threads before. But I do think theres the chance its true , that some unspeakable things happened . they are not revealed for wateva certain reasons at the time.
will that change over time ?
My Interest is if there are profile similarities to other missing/murdered beheaded victims a.deverall at waroona dam & B.western at spectacles.



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