05 Feb 2012 - Timeline discussion

[epiphany]

The time is misstated in this article. The 911 call came in at 12:13. All other articles say the boys arrived "about noon". Also, the e-mails went out at about 12:05. I think that was timed to happen after the plan was put in action.

Just adding:

After 10 minutes of pounding on the door, G-H placed a frantic call to 911, saying she was locked out, one of the boys was crying and she smelled gasoline.

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/53473091-78/call-powell-dispatcher-information.html.csp

 

[Nixie]

So is it safe to assume that at least 10 mins transpired between the time the boys were locked inside until the first call made it to 911?

In the first call the supervisor says they have been in there about 10 minutes but it is a couple minutes into the call.

BBM

Not sure why you say that but it is not true. She says this a little past the half way point in the 7 minute call. It probably seemed like 10 minutes to her.



SOCIAL WORKER: Foster Care Resource Network. (Pause). And the kids have been in there by now approximately 10 minutes. And he knows this is a supervised visit.


4 minutes and 20 seconds into the tape she says the kids have been in there approximately 10 minutes.

http://mynorthwest.com/?nid=577&a=38849&p=&n=AudioClip

 

[Isabelle]

SW called her supervisor before 911. Don't know the time.

Call log shows SW call was received at 12:08.
It took her two minutes into the call to find the address.
At 12:16 dispatcher contacted Two deputies
At 12:30 deputies arrive on site.

Off to look for time fire started.
http://www.ksro.com/news/article.aspx?id=1682576

This timeline matches what was published in out paper today, except it shows that the 911 operator transferred the information to a dispatcher 5 minutes into the call, so that would be 12:13, then dispatcher took 2.5 minutes to alert deputies, so that would be 12:15:30.

I think we can assume the fire/explosion started just after the caseworker's call to 911 ended, if it was an 8 minute call.

At approx 12:15:30, calls were coming in reporting the explosion and fire.

 

[hollyblue]

It took 22 minutes for help to get to Powell house

The emergency dispatcher who took the initial 911 call reporting Josh Powell’s behavior before he set fire to his Washington state home on Sunday wasted precious time and didn’t get the information needed to send help immediately.
Call logs show it took 22 minutes from when the call was made to when sheriff’s deputies arrived at Powell’s home, the Associated Press reported.

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/53473091-78/call-powell-dispatcher-information.html.csp?page=2

 

[ccargirl]

Sounds from all the timelines like LE wasn't dispatched until after other calls started coming in about the explosion.
:banghead:

 

[Dr.Fessel]

According to the sheriff's office, the caseworker called 911 at 12:08 p.m. Deputies weren't dispatched until 12:16 p.m.

The recordings of the 911 call didn't make clear when deputies were dispatched. Emergency-call logs obtained by The AP show that apparently happened about a minute after the caseworker's call ended.

It wasn't until 12:29 p.m. that deputies arrived at the home, which by then was in flames.

It's not known if a quicker response could have saved the boys, who were attacked with a hatchet before Powell set fire to the home.

Troyer said the call was dispatched to deputies as routine. Deputies weren't told that the home belonged to Powell or that the caseworker had smelled gasoline, he said.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2017455002_dispatcher09m.html

 

[sayd]

According to the sheriff's office, the caseworker called 911 at 12:08 p.m. Deputies weren't dispatched until 12:16 p.m.

The recordings of the 911 call didn't make clear when deputies were dispatched. Emergency-call logs obtained by The AP show that apparently happened about a minute after the caseworker's call ended.

It wasn't until 12:29 p.m. that deputies arrived at the home, which by then was in flames.

It's not known if a quicker response could have saved the boys, who were attacked with a hatchet before Powell set fire to the home.

Troyer said the call was dispatched to deputies as routine. Deputies weren't told that the home belonged to Powell or that the caseworker had smelled gasoline, he said.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2017455002_dispatcher09m.html

This just makes me so upset I can hardly talk. I know the consensus on this list seems to be "it wouldn't matter". That might be true, but it sure would have been worth a good try. It MIGHT have mattered.

 

[Paige SC]

Would really like to know: the exact the time of SW's arrival, how long she attempted to get in the house before she called her supervisor, and how long that call lasted before she hung up and dialed 911. To paraphrase, how long (exactly) were the boys in the house prior to the explosion. Wonder if we will ever know.

 

[Dal Gal]

The fire department actually arrived 7 minutes before the sheriff's did, as they were dispatched when neighbors called 911 about the explosion. They only had to travel less than a mile:

Compare that to fire crews of the Graham Fire Department. They were dispatched at 12:17 and arrived at 12:22 for a response time of 5 minutes.
http://www.abc4.com/content/news/to...ll-home-explosion/JL4ZPmylokGB2tEqH_ff5A.cspx

 

[Paige SC]

The fire department actually arrived 7 minutes before the sheriff's did, as they were dispatched when neighbors called 911 about the explosion. They only had to travel less than a mile:

Compare that to fire crews of the Graham Fire Department. They were dispatched at 12:17 and arrived at 12:22 for a response time of 5 minutes.
http://www.abc4.com/content/news/to...ll-home-explosion/JL4ZPmylokGB2tEqH_ff5A.cspx

WOW. So we know now that it only took the FD 5 mins to get there from when they received the call from dispatch. Imagine if they had been dispatched at the first part of the original 911 call that was over 7 minutes in duration. We know JP was in the house with those boys over 15 mins before he set the house on fire. Perhaps the fire would have been started regardless - true - but I still question if a rescue was possible had first responders been notified ASAP and had arrived within the first ten mins of the boys being locked inside. It was "doable".

 

[Dal Gal]

Kinda makes ya wonder why the Sheriff was dispatched when the SW reported smelling gas, and not the fire department! With a 5 minute response time, if GFD had been dispatched at 12:10 when the SW found the address, they could have arrived at 12:15, a full minute before the explosion was reported...

 

[jadejazzkayla]

Kinda makes ya wonder why the Sheriff was dispatched when the SW reported smelling gas, and not the fire department! With a 5 minute response time, if GFD had been dispatched at 12:10 when the SW found the address, they could have arrived at 12:15, a full minute before the explosion was reported...

ita. We don't know if the 911 call taker told the police dispatcher about the gasoline or not, but the fact that gasoline was involved was witheld from the first responders.

- and we know the police dispatcher prioritized the call as "routine".

I would like to hear the conversation between the call taker and the police dispatcher.

 

[Dr.Fessel]

ita. We don't know if the 911 call taker told the police dispatcher about the gasoline or not, but the fact that gasoline was involved was witheld from the first responders.

- and we know the police dispatcher prioritized the call as "routine".

I would like to hear the conversation between the call taker and the police dispatcher.

I have been thinking about this too and would really like to know the answers.

Did the 911 operator tell the dispatch it was Josh Powell.

Did the 911 operator tell the dispatch about the smell of gasoline.

 

[Nixie]

According to the article she called her supervisor after calling 911 the first time and was on the phone with her supervisor when the house exploded. The interview will probable shed a better light on the chain of events then the teaser does.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/josh-powell-told-sons-surprise/story?id=15549745