17 yo Trayvon Martin Shot to Death by Neighborhood Watch Captain #30

Discussion in 'George Zimmerman/Trayvon Martin General Discussion' started by imamaze, Apr 21, 2012.

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  1. HiHater

    HiHater No justice. No peace.

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    If he were going to initiate a call longer than say, 2 minutes, it would make more sense to hang up with one person and call them back. If the calls were not merged, who would sit on the phone in dead silence for longer than that?
     


  2. csziggy

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    <Mod Snip> The times I am using are from the call log of GZ's call that night that were included in GZ's 911 call history released by Sanford on their website.

    Since there is no certainty on everyone's clocks, watches or phone being on the same time, when I can for my timeline speculations, I have tried to use the Sanford Police Department call logs. I figure they are more likely to keep those clocks synchronized to each other than any other source would.

    A personal note about myself - I am going in for my first knee replacement May 15. So I will be more and more distracted and less able to participate over the next three weeks, then I'll be completely gone for a while, though I hope I can get online and read some of the threads.

    As soon as I heal from the first knee replacement, I will be going back for the second, hopefully sometime in August or September. So the rest of this year will be pretty much trashed. I will be thinking of all of you, but don't know if I will be around much at all.
     
  3. HiHater

    HiHater No justice. No peace.

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    I think a more reasonable thing to do would be to actually HELP the kid instead of calling 911. Do we know if law enforcement ever found the kid?
     
  4. Emeralgem

    Emeralgem New Member

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    BBM...IMHO..It isn't and.. IMHO most of the everything to the contrary is all just smoke and mirrors... Designed to confuse... JMHO
     
  5. Schu7

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    MOM will try and make GZ out to be a kind caring person in court. But there is no way he will get away with that line. There is no such thing as a kind caring person who loads their gun up with hollow point bullets. And a jury will know that fact.IMO
     
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    Why would it be Pacific Time when the phone is in Miami? It would show up on the bill as the time zone the phone was in at the time. jmo
     
  7. m00c0w

    m00c0w Well-Known Member

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    4:28 + 3 hours = 7:28.
     
  8. Cher352

    Cher352 Well-Known Member

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    Talking of bail amounts, I know there has been a lot of discussion on how many thought it was too low so started thinking about cases and bond amounts.

    One recent central FL case that came to mind was Bob Ward's. Ward was charged with 2nd degree murder of his wife (not a SYG case). This was a millionaire developer living in upscale Ilsworth (Windermere area of Orange County). His bond was only $100K, so GZ is 50% higher than Ward's was.

    BTW, Ward was found guilty in Sept 2011.
     
  9. CriticalThinking

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    The detective, who was on the stand for the bond hearing, admitted they have no witnesses or evidence of George Zimmerman chasing down Trayvon or who confronted who.:cow:
     
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    Prayers for a successful surgery and speedy recovery! :seeya:
     
  11. LambChop

    LambChop Former Member

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    Oh my goodness you'll be around. I had one done in 2007 and it's really not that restrictive. You just have to be careful of blood clots so getting up and moving around is good. You'll be here, trust me. lol

    Thanks for that information about the time.
     
  12. Zak

    Zak Member

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    I believe I heard Gilbreath refer to the 6" flashlight as what he would term a tactical flashlight. The flashlight on the key ring was called just that, a flashlight on his key ring. No mention of it being tactical. I have a flashlight on my key ring and its about 1 1/2"-2" long. I also have a flashlight in my glove compartment and its about 5-6" long. So this doesn't seem abnormal to me nor would I refer to myself as being armed with tactical flashlights.
     
  13. Just K

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    Every T-Mobile on-line statement...even after one inputs their zipcode...has that PST notation. It means absolutely nothing because even when you know that the time of the call is EST, the notation can still be seen on the bottom of the printout. It is simply the default note to anyone who does not input their location.

    But a simple call to t-mobile and a real-time test shows me that even though a call to T-mobile was placed at 6:30 PM EST and the printout denotes the same, that the note about PST is still seen at the bottom of the list of recent calls.

    HTH. Her call was at 7:12 PM EST
     
  14. HiHater

    HiHater No justice. No peace.

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    Yes, but according to GZ, there was NO CHASE. He walked back to his car and was jumped from behind.

    The state does have a witness who saw one person chasing, or running after, another person.

    So how is that explained?
     
  15. LambChop

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    And he also said that the evidence, witness statements, and statements GZ has made are inconsistent with what they do know. Forensics, trail of the bullet into TM's body, witnesses who saw bits and pieces of what happened that night will all be pieced together to give us a pretty good idea what went wrong. jmo
     
  16. Cher352

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    One topic of discussion that I haven't seen much here is the right to a speedy trial.

    I don't remember any cases lately where a defense has ask for this. Is is ever done anymore and would it be advantageous in a case such as this?
     
  17. mercuriod

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    No he didn't, he even mentioned a witness that saw the chase.
     
  18. CriticalThinking

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    Never heard that from the detective and he was asked about witnesses. He said no witnesses and no evidence. Where did you see that?
     
  19. mommakk51

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    I'm sorry, but respectfully I must ask. We now know, by deciphering those 46 calls, that the reason GZ called in about the 7-9 yr old boy, was out of concern for him walking alone near a busy highway. GZ was not a r*cist. He was mentoring 2 AA kids for heaven sake. Why is he still being presumed to be such a monster? The bond hearing pretty much killed that theory. JMO-IMO-IMHO-MOO 'n stuff.
     
  20. Elley Mae

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    in the form of shadows, iirc?
     
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