Discussion in 'George Zimmerman Trial/Trayvon Martin' started by SoSueMe, May 3, 2012.
I've not read anything that says Trayvon was doing all of those things at the same exact time.
She said she tried to call him back. Her parents may have been out for the evening. He was suppose to be in a safe environment, a gated community. I doubt he told her his exact location other than he was in Sanford. I'm sure she was concerned but never expected he was dead. Obviously she ended up in the hospital when she heard she had talked with him right before he died. It's really not fair to speculate about what a 15/16 year old should have done when we are adults putting our expectations on her. Kids do not always think about dying, or someone dying and in particular someone their age dying. It's not the first thing they think will happened to someone. jmo
I personally feel very bad for her because I think (IMO) quite possibly words are being put in her mouth.
What was wrong with it, was that it was a disingenous apology forced by his lawyer, much like Casey Anthony's phony apology in court to her friend that she stole from! Too little, too late!
he was NOT in the car! He explicitly told the operator he was pursuing trayvon! If Trayvon was circling his car (initially) WHY on earth would Zimmerman THEN get out and pursue him? If this was the case.. well there goes the SYG defense for George!
Either way George is a liar.
If Trayvon had been your Son would GZ's apology make everything all better?
It's possible but GZ offers the information about TM being suspicious and on drugs very early in the 911 call. If the circling of his car was what alerted him to TM being suspicious, how did that happen? The car would have to be parked in order for a pedestrian to circle it suspiciously but GZ was on his way to Target to buy some groceries and would have been driving when he saw TM. Why did he stop?
I find the more likely conclusion is that she did not hear anything that alarmed her.
See, THIS is where, imo, the supporters of TM lose all credibility. He is LAYING on the ground, with a 6'3' manchild covering his mouth and nose, and ALL he had to do was THINK (tough to do when you have, per GZ, been punched in the nose, and are being suffocated) about how to get away. When you are being starved for oxygen, your body AUTOMATICALLY reacts to get air inside.
Teenage drama... not parent and police drama.
Are we sure about that?
So why keep ASKING him about the situation? Why not get "unpolite" and tell him to STOP? Say you are fixing my car for me, and I say, "You don't have to do that...but it is making this weird noise when I turn the wheel." Does that indicate that I want you to STOP IMMEDIATELY, or that you don't HAVE to do it, but since you ARE, here is what I need?
Plus we do have her phone records so we do not know who she might have tried to call besides TM. jmo
Personally I though it wrong that crump had access to her before LE, that's just me.
No, I guess nobody explicitly said that all this happened at the same time but we have heard versions that say that GZ had to shoot because he was in fear for his life, because he was losing consciousness and couldn't breathe because Trayvon's hand forced him to swallow the blood that came out of his nose. We have also heard that GZ had to shoot because he was in fear for his life because his head was being bashed against the concrete and one more hit would have had him in diapers and fed by his brother. We have also heard that GZ had to shoot because he was in fear for his life because TM was trying to get his gun. It seems to me that all this is alleged to have happened at the moment it became crystal clear to him that he was going to die unless he shot TM.
She didn't quite receive the subpoena - but a "source close to the situation" said one was being prepared. This article also states, probably the same "situation source", that the girl's parents called SPD, but they never interviewed her. And still, neither she, nor her mother, ever called the Martins.
"The 17-year-old was on the phone with his girlfriend as Zimmerman began to follow him, and because she is a minor, RadarOnline.com isn't disclosing her name. The Sanford Police Department never questioned Trayvon's girlfriend, even though her parents contacted the cops to tell them she wanted to come in for a sit down interview.
"Trayvon's girlfriend has been told that the Florida State Attorney's Office has prepared a subpoena for her to appear in front of the grand jury. She has hired a lawyer to advise her and make sure that her rights are protected. Her attorney has told prosecutors that she is ready to appear and is looking forward to telling the grand jury what really happened on February 26," a source close to the situation tells RadarOnline.com."
pretty soon GZ will have brain damage from lack of oxygen. :banghead:
But what about the next day when she finds out that TM has been shot and killed? Wouldn't she then call someone to let them know what happened the last time she talked to TM? I mean, the last time she is talking to TM he tells her there is a man following him, she hears words exchanged and what she describes as a push and the phone goes dead. No answer when she calls back and the next day she learns of the death, but still doesn't contact his parents???
Thank you, but I am well aware of what was said by GZ, both on the call and during the hearing. I respectfully but heartily disagree that his statement on the stand proves that he lied. JMO
GZ most definitely did not specify an age or an approximate age in digits, as you've done in parentheses in your post. IMO it might be misleading to give any uninformed posters here the impression that GZ stated a specific number on the stand. He did not.
He said he thought TM was a little younger than his own age. GZ is 28. There is a range of possibility there, as to how old he thought TM was upon encountering him in person. JMO
Do you have a link that states that as a fact? I thought as of yet, we don't know what happened.