17 yo Trayvon Martin Shot to Death by Neighborhood Watch Captain #36

Discussion in 'George Zimmerman Trial/Trayvon Martin' started by SoSueMe, May 3, 2012.

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  1. LinasK

    LinasK Verified insider- Mark Dribin case

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    Other posters here who are more familiar with police dispatch practices have said that there may be a script the dispatchers use or that they are told not to issue direct orders.
     


  2. zenreaper

    zenreaper New Member

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    Nothing will EVER make it all better. But you CANNOT, as the Martins did, REJECT an offer to speak with GZ for an apology, then say he wouldn't GIVE an apology, then say the apology he DID give was self serving. You have to pick ONE side and stick with it.
     
  3. LambChop

    LambChop Former Member

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    Because the dispatcher got an answer of "okay" which he assumed GZ understood his request. Had he known GZ still intended to follow, the dispatcher would have never hung up the phone and given GZ a direct order because his safety was in jeopardy along with anyone else within the area because GZ had a gun and did not let LE know. jmo
     
  4. Donjeta

    Donjeta Adji Desir, missing from Florida

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    After the dispatcher tells GZ to stop following he only asks basic info about the caller. What's your name and address and where can the police find you so you can explain to them what the problem is.

    JMO but I don't think it would be good form of a 911 dispatcher to just drop the call without getting the particulars when someone calls and says they're following a suspicious individual.
     
  5. vlpate

    vlpate Sleuther with a porpoise

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    BEM: I doubt GZ said this about his brother - I'm more inclined to believe these are his brother's words, embellished for dramatic effect. JMO
     
  6. Desdemona

    Desdemona * * * * Desi * * * *

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    I disagree, since GZ knew he could have stopped the questioning and obtained an attorney at any point. IMO his immediate and extended voluntary unrepresented cooperation with LE is one of the factors that has me waiting for more information, instead of assuming that GZ is lying about what happened the night TM died. JMO
     
  7. MaryAnn

    MaryAnn New Member

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    How do you know she didn't call Trayvon's parents? Either way, the poor child was probably in shock. I just lost my Cousin unexpectedly from a heart attack two weeks ago. I am still in a daze and he died from natural causes at 54. So I cannot even imagine how a 16 year old felt when she found out her bf was dead. Why are we analyzing her in the first place? This is about GZ shooting someone for no reason whatsoever.
     
  8. pcrum12

    pcrum12 Well-Known Member

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    :tyou:
     
  9. Desdemona

    Desdemona * * * * Desi * * * *

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    Agreed ----> Especially the next day, after hearing that he was shot to death, apparently by the very same dude... ya know? If it is true that she heard what is alleged, I do find it very strange that she would not have at least told her parents about the conversation... who surely would have contacted Sanford police, wouldn't they? All JMO
     
  10. LambChop

    LambChop Former Member

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    Oh, it was too little way too late. It was not an apology. An apology would have been more on the lines of I'm sorry I shot your son....... GZ avoided any responsibility for the shooting just said he was sorry for their loss. They want him to tell them why he shot their son....they don't want to hear I'm sorry for your loss. Those are empty words from the shooter. jmo
     
  11. mommakk51

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    vlpate,

    Also.. what made no sense to me, is that Tracy Martin got Tray's g/f to call juvenile justice, when that is where Brandy Greene works?? Why didn't he just call himself??

    :moo::moo:

    Another question, which will explain my comments above, why did Tracy Martin call the Juvenile Justice dept., and the Sheriff's Dept. to see if they'd picked TM up, before calling the non-emergency number? Link
    "“I had [his girlfriend] call juvenile justice, just to check and see if anyone by the name of Trayvon Martin had been picked up. No Trayvon Martin,” the father told NNPA. “My next call was to the Seminole County Sheriff’s Department to see if any kid had been picked up.

    “My third call was to a non-emergency number at the Seminole County Sheriff’s

    Department and I informed them that I was filing a missing person’s report."
     
  12. LambChop

    LambChop Former Member

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    I believe their position was they wanted to protect her. And we can see now why they took they stand. It was a wise move on their part. jmo
     
  13. Donjeta

    Donjeta Adji Desir, missing from Florida

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    I guess I am not getting your point because I don't see where it contradicts anything I said.

    If he was starved for oxygen he wouldn't have reacted automatically by lifting his head against all the pressure TM exerted because that is an effort that requires MORE oxygen and TM wouldn't have been able to repeatedly bash his head to the ground at the same time he was using all that weight to push GZ down and suffocate him.

    A simple sideways rolling of the head would have been a movement of less resistance and if his mouth and nose pointed to the side it would have been more difficult for TM to cover them completely since he would have had to use his weight horizontally.
     
  14. deelytful1

    deelytful1 *~a mere mortal~*

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    What are you insinuating?
     
  15. katydid23

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    Well if they are told not to issue direct orders, then he was not given a direct order. So how could he not follow an order if he was not given one?
     
  16. Donjeta

    Donjeta Adji Desir, missing from Florida

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    Also.. what made no sense to me, is that Tracy Martin got Tray's g/f to call juvenile justice, when that is where Brandy Greene works?? Why didn't he just call himself??

    :moo::moo:[/QUOTE]

    I think he means Tracy got his own gf to call them, not Tray's gf.
     
  17. Desdemona

    Desdemona * * * * Desi * * * *

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    I have not heard anyone stating that this is GZ's position. Nor is it mine, nor have I seen anyone stating so here, IMO. As has been noted, GZ was answering a question that the victim's grieving mother said she would ask him if she could meet him face to face. JMO

    /bbm
     
  18. LinasK

    LinasK Verified insider- Mark Dribin case

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    And I see his "cooperation" as being self-serving. He'd gotten 2 previous felony convictions reduced to misdeameanors, and daddy was a judge. No reason to believe they'd actually charge him, IMO!
     
  19. jaded cat

    jaded cat Usually out just horsin' around!

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    Because the police dept. in Miami has nothing better to do than follow up on a vague phone call?
     
  20. deelytful1

    deelytful1 *~a mere mortal~*

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    Can you provide me the link that explains what Trayvon's mom's specific demands were in an apology?
    I must have missed that
     
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