Hello WS Since so many people said they had not seen/heard this interview and it was suggested it have it own thread, I decided to start one. This interview is with Joyce and Bailey Dickens who are neighbors of the Anthonys. July22, 2008 (Seven days after Caylee was reported missing) LE: Present in the room with me is Joyce Dickens and her husband Bailey Dickens and this is in reference to the Caylee Anthony case. Ah, Miss Dickens can you go ahead and tell me if you have any knowledge or what you know(inaudable), what you told me? JD: I, I, about two, three days ago one of the girls in the neighborhood, her names Keo. BD: Saturday. JD: Saturday. LE: Inaudable JD: Anyway, she stopped by here and she was askin questions and we just started talking and she told me that uh, she herself had talked to Casey, Casey had called her. LE: Okay. When you say Casey I'm going to show you this photograph. JD: Yes LE: That's Casey Anthony the person you're referencing? (crosstalk: BD&JD in agreement) Yes. JD: She said that Casey had called her, ah, I think... BD: Two weeks. JD: Almost two weeks ago which would have been about July 9th and she was talkin' to her. She told me that she could hear a baby in the background going "mommy, mommy, look, look, look" and mommy was going "shhh, shhh, I'm on the phone." So she said that um, she um... BD: Wanted to borrow two hundred... JD: No, no, no that was another time, another time though earlier she had called Keo, Casey had called Keo and wanted to borrow some money and she was calling from a pay phone. And Keo says tell me where you are, I'll bring it to you and, uh, Casey said, "No, no, I'll call you back and she never called her back until, I guess July the 9th about, you know, talkin' with her again. But she wasn't... BD: This girl her name is Keo. (crosstalk) JD: Keo BD: Torres. K-E-O T-O-R-R-E-S JD: Yes BD: Torres, now her dad lives down the street here Rafael, three houses down on the left, she used to live here, she came by to see her dad and her step-mom, step-sister and then she came down to see us, gave us all a hug, she's told me she's engaged to her boyfriend she said he weighs 400lbs, and ah, and she travels. She works for a, like a travel agency thing for Irish people, ah, she used to work at Universal Studios with her, and Casey worked there together. (crosstalk) LE: Right, okay. So, this would have been Saturday... JD: Yes LE: Which, this past Saturday so they... BD: (Interrupting) Saturday evening she came by here because we went to the vigils Sunday night down there... JD: Yes BD: ...the prayer thing. LE: Alright, so Keo comes here and she tells you that on July 9th she was talking to Casey? JD: Yes LE: And she could hear a child in the background and Casey was responding to that child? JD: Yes LE: Okay. Um, did she tell you anything else? JD: Well she went on talkin' about how Keo and Casey and Julie, another girl... BD: (Interrupting) Jessica JD: Jessica was, ah, best friends, I said if there's any place you know where, maybe, you know,um Casey'd hung out at, please let the cops know and everything. LE: Okay. JD: And she told me about, there's a little school right over here, Hidden Oaks... BD: Elementary school. JD: Elementary school. BD: And the road that goes down, if you take our street Hopespring down there, if you turn right you go down and it dead(door opens and person comes into room BD speaks to this person saying: "Baby, ah, we got a police officer here get dressed.") you, you go down, you turn right on Suburban Drive and it dead ends into a fence, the elementary school is called Hidden Oak its on the left, that's where my son went when he was one year ahead of her in school, ah, one year behind her in school, he knew her the whole time. Ah, the, the, there was a bunch of fires purposely set up behind that school a couple of years ago so they built a big fence up all around there, so you can't get back in there anymore. I went down there to check it, the fence is locked, all ya gotta do is just do what, she could drive right down the road and go back to the field. Keo told us she thinks if the babys buried it probably buried back there. I, when she told me that, Keo told me this she was sitting right in that chair, I said to her, you have got to give this information to the detectives, you have to do this. Well, I don't know what to do, I said just a minute. So I called Brian Burner down there, he gave me (Happy's?)num...,detective Wells name and number and, and that was like on Saturday and I'm thinkin' Keo's a young girl, she's like twenty-two, she's scared that was her friend, I don't want to step over her bounds or nothin' but, I don't know if Keo came forward and I know you can't tell me if she did, I'm not askin' you that. I just want to make damn sure you got this information. LE: Well, i can guarantee you it'll be delivered. JD: Yeah, yeah but she said they just hung out and talked, you know, though out their middle school and high school...days. BD: And I said did you smoke pot and drink beer, ya know, she said no we just hung out as friends that's what she, Keo said it and I believe her. LE: Why, wonder what would lead her to believe that if the baby was buried, eh you know, if it would be buried there, if it was dead? BD: And her mother, Keo's mother told, has been tellin' Keo for the last week that, the ba-, babys buried around Hidden Oaks elementary school. And they, they... LE: (Interrupting) Do you have Keo's phone number by chance? JD: No, I'm shoul... BD: (Interrupting) We can get it from her father. LE: Well, well I'll definitely be headin' over there to, soon as I leave here. JD: Yeah. LE: You know their address? BD: Its the pink house on the left. (crosstalk) JD: Ah, a few other things she said... BD: (Interrupting) Its straight out the front door. JD: ..too is that, Casey really did like to party. LE: She did or did not? JD: She did. BD: She did like to party. JD: (Inaudible) BD: She would see her in clubs. JD: Yeah. BD: She, she told her, this was very important, she, she tell ya how brilliant this Casey is, she was seven months pregnant before she even knew she was pregnant and she thinks she, its too late for an abortion, she wanted to put the baby up for adoption and her mother, if there was a vote taken on the street she would be the *****from hell on the street if you understand what I am saying, that mother is, is, shes acting all wonderful and nice now, she is evil and she can, very controlling person, control Casey and, ah, Keo said she would be down at the house in the afternoon when the mother came home from work, and if the dad was there, fine George but if the mother came she'd throw everybody out of the house immediately and see Keo said to me she threw me out because I was Puerto Rican. I don't want to get into all that but she said that her mother just didn't like those people. And then she said Casey would date Prerto Rican boys just to upset her mother because that was a love, hate relationship there, the mother is pretty domineering. JD: And I think she said... (crosstalk) LE: This is, this is Keo telling you though? JD: Yes, oh yes. BD: Yes (both agree at same time) LE: Didn't hear any of this directly from Casey? JD: No, no we have not. But another thing she said about Casey was, Casey apparently told Keo that her mother had been in a psycho ward for a week. I don't know if that's true or not, 'cause we're finding out , ya know, she's such a liar, we don't know if that's true. BD: About three, three to four years ago, right after that baby was born, the mother threw the husband out the house, she had a boyfriend they were gonna get a divorce and then about six, eight months later George showed back up at the house, she brought him back in. She's the one that makes all the money, he can't keep a job, she is very domineering, a compete control freak... LE: (Interrupting) This is Casey's mom? BD: Casey's mom. JD: Yeah. BD: And she, neighbor, Brian's wife that live right beside her, she said I've lived here three years and she hasn't said seven words to me. Tha, that mother, I am tellin' ya, she is very controlling and she's evil but...what Keo said, ah, she Keo also said that she didn't, she did want to get rid of the baby but the mother wouldn't let her. The mother made her keep the baby and have the baby. And, and, I think the baby was cramping that girls style. As far as working, and, and money, I don't know of anything she ever did. LE: Where does, where did Keo say she lived now? JD: She lives here in Orlando but she travels a lot. BD: She flies all over the country and stuff, Keos like twenty-two, Keo Torres, is that correct?(someone in background saying: "Torres, yes.") But Keo is, i would believe anything she says she's credible, we have known her since she was a little girl. LE: Okay well I'll definitely go down there, if you wouldn't mind(inaudible) I'd appreciate that, now, let me ask you this, take you back, um, all of this was relayed to you on Saturday by Keo. JD: Keo, herself. BD: Yes LE: And, so, you said prior to this call between Keo and Casey that, which she believes was on July9th. JD: Right LE: That she called, Casey called Keo prior to that, sometime we don't know when... JD: Right LE: And asked for two hundred dollars? BD: Two hundred dollars, and then she called from a pay phone at that time... JD: Yup, yup BD: And she said well where are you, I'll give you the money, she said well I'll call you back and she never called back. I think that's because she got that seven hundred from that other girl, you know that was in the news. LE: Yeah(affirmative). Alright, um you said something about when she was pregnant, supposedly Keo also told you she wanted to give the baby up for adoption? JD: She did and Keo was kind of leaning toward adopting the baby but the mother world not let it happen. LE: Which mother? Keo's Mother? JD&BD: (together) No, no, no... JD: Cindy BD: Cindy JD: Casey's mother, (inaudible) BD: She made her have that baby. JD: Yeah(affirmative) BD: And, and they ruined that baby. Whenever they were having a garage sale down there, they probably have two thousand dollars worth of old baby clothes for sale down there, they spoil that baby, out of this world... JD: They love that baby, I mean George and Cindy love that baby. BD: Oh yeah, they would push the, the baby up and down the street in the stroller and never saw the mother do it even one time. JD: They definitely, you know Keo said she's definitely a party girl. She wanted to be out clubbing and doing things, um... BD: (Interrupting) The string of boyfriends that come by here could line up from Toledo Ohio and back... JD: (Interrupting) Um, huh(affirmative) BD: ...she had um, let me tell ya'. LE: Okay. Can you both do me a favor? Can you both raise your right hand...can you swear and affirm what you told me today is true to the best of your knowledge? JD: Yes BD: Yes LE: We're gonna go ahead and end this interview at (time).