2009.09.30 Baez Motions-the missing Memos of Law/Exhibits

Discussion in 'Caylee Anthony 2 years old' started by Muzikman, Oct 3, 2009.

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  1. Muzikman

    Muzikman ROCKIN!

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    Two motions filed by Baez this week, looks like they were written by Andrea & students. The media put up the actual motions, but did not put up the Memorandums Of Law and Exhibits that were attached with the motions. I got them from the Clerk's office and thought they were interesting and worth discussion.

    Motion to Preclude DP
    http://www.clickorlando.com/download/2009/0930/21164317.pdf

    Memorandum of Law in Support of Defense Motion to Preclude DP Procedures (note that Page 9 is missing - either left out by Baez when filing, or lost at the Clerk's office - your guess as to which :) )

    http://www.filedropper.com/093009motionprecludedpmemooflaw

    Near the end is a Table of Exhibits, documents which we already have. I hand-wrote the page numbers so they could be found and included for discussion. I also attached the interview excerpts of Amy H, Sean D and Jonathan D to make it easier, and also the snarky letter from Baez to LDB.



    Motion to Dismiss Counts 1 and 2 of the Indictment Against CMA
    http://www.clickorlando.com/download/2009/0930/21163681.pdf


    Memorandum of Law in Support of Motion to Dismiss Counts 1 and 2
    http://www.filedropper.com/093009motiondismisscts1and2memooflaw

    The last page of this has a summary of Exhibits. I did not get copies of all of these, as they've mostly already been released. I hand wrote SA page numbers so they could be looked at (exhibit G is 6440-6450, my bad writing) and discussed.

    Exhibit K is the FBI Lab Report released by Brad Conway this week. Missing from his release was page 9586, which I have included here.

    http://www.filedropper.com/093009fbilabreportexhibitkmotiondismisscts1and2


    To download from Filedropper: click the link above, click the "Download This File" button, enter a few Captcha letters/numbers and voila! it downloads to your computer. You do NOT need to sign up.

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    Enjoy! I'll be gone for a few days... :)
     
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  3. countzero

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    Dang you work fast. Have a safe trip to where ever you are traveling. Thanks again. Another job well done :clap::clap::clap:
     
  4. cecybeans

    cecybeans New Member

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    Musikman, you just totally rock - thanks again for going the extra mile!
     
  5. MissJames

    MissJames a yellowflutterby changed my life : )

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    Wha,wha,wha !
    Sounds like whining
    I know it's their job,but give me a break! So, will the State have to show their additional evidence to answer this motion?
     
  6. sleutherontheside

    sleutherontheside Retired WS Staff

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    Page 9 missing.......me thinks wwe all know the answer.
     
  7. Valhall

    Valhall Keeper of the Mystic Fish

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    First, thank you so much for providing this.

    Second, the state doesn't have much in forensics.

    This reports leaves no wiggle room on the duct tape on the skull compared to the duct tape on the gas can. They absolutely state they didn't come from the same roll.
     
  8. tasylshari

    tasylshari New Member

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    Muzikman: Thank you (again!) :blowkiss:for all of your dedication and time (well spent, might I add :blushing:). I have read the docs, well, with the exception of page 9 (duuuuuuhhhhhhhh JB), and have the same five words to say:


    Jose & Linda: Do the words

    Unwitting overdose of a sedative
    ring any bells?:waitasec:
     
  9. MD MOMMY

    MD MOMMY New Member

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    Okay I'm not getting why page 9 would be missing...a little hint?
     
  10. tasylshari

    tasylshari New Member

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    Question: the last 2 pages of the FBI evidence docs states that as per convo with Jeff A (was it??) that the vacuums and carpet cleaners taken from the A's residence post discovery of Caylee's remains were not tested??? Or just tested visually??? Am I way wrong on this? I cannot imagine why the vacuum and carpet cleaner would not be in little bitty pieces right now:waitasec:
     
  11. Kathy1964

    Kathy1964 New Member

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    BBM
    Do you have a link for this? I thought the adhesive was the same.
     
  12. Tulessa

    Tulessa Well-Known Member

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    I missed something...........
     
  13. RR0004

    RR0004 New Member

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    Caylee wasn't particularly vulnerable due to her familial relationship (p. 10)? With what we know now? You've got to be kidding me? She may have been safe with her grandparents...but considering no one knows what Casey did when she was alone on a daily basis with Caylee (with perhaps the exception that she talked A LOT or texted A LOT on the phone)...and the one time she is away with the child she "disappears"...I think it can be established that the child was no doubt vulnerable with her mother. I also have a strong suspicion that Caylee had been "lost" before.
     
  14. MD MOMMY

    MD MOMMY New Member

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    Like in the mall or something LOL..I agree.
     
  15. sleutherontheside

    sleutherontheside Retired WS Staff

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    I need to go back and reread the 40 pages but FWIW, IMO, with AL citing specific cases showing aggravating circumstances during the murder ( a mother beating child with bat, another case with defensive wounds showing the victim was aware they were being killed) and referencing the dp not being proposed in those cases it feels like the next page would cite cases that may be similar to what they may try to present in court (accidental death in some manner) as their explanation of what happened. Hiring Todd Macaluso was a big hint. He is an accident reconstruction expert. IMO page 9 references cases with accidental death. I could be off my rocker but I read the motion once and have NOT analyzed every bit. This is my first impression.



    Came back in with my other thought. OR...page 9 could demonstrate the first written evidence we will see where they throw the A family under the bus.
     
  16. tasylshari

    tasylshari New Member

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    [ Hiring Todd Macaluso was a big hint. He is an accident reconstruction expert. IMO page 9 references cases with accidental death.

    SOS: respectfully snipped :blushing:

    Thanks for that little tidbit that I hadn't read before now. It kinda gives me back the little glimmers of hope that I keep feeling, only to have the defence try to miscredit them. Thanks!
     
  17. Dear Prudence

    Dear Prudence New Member

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    This worries me too. I think it's too much of a coincidence for the tape not to be from the same roll giving the rare Henkel brand, but the FBI report on the fabric sure throws some reasonable doubt in there. Especially when I consider the fabric testing was done second, so might possibly be the FBI's last word on the tape. If you look at the report from Dec. 19, 2008 starting on p. 3793 here http://www.wftv.com/pdf/18740657/detail.html after they state the tapes are comparable, you will see it states under the remarks section:
    "Tape specimens Q64 and Q66 remain under active examination in the Trace Evidence Unit to determine if any difference exist between the fabric reinforcement component of these tapes."
    So then later the report comes out with these results you can read here on p. 9588 http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21161111/detail.html.
    "The fabric portion of specimens Q62 through Q64 and Q104 are microscopically dissimilar in fiber composition to the fiber composition to Q66. Accordingly they are not consistent with originating from the same source as Q66."
    So the reports are conflicting. Which one holds more weight? I'm sure we'll hear about this at trial from an FBI tech as a witness. But could the second test be enough to give one juror a little reasonable doubt?
    I don't think there's any way Baez's motions to dismiss will work but things like the above will sure be part of his defense strategy. In fact, I think his whole strategy is to tear apart the physical evidence and hope one juror will be a hold out on voting guilty.
     
  18. tasylshari

    tasylshari New Member

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    Muzikman going on a trip? :Bicicleta:What the? Don't tell me....you're off to Puerto Rico :detective:to help Cindy look for Caylee and ZFG. Ohhhhh, the lengths that you will go to for Caylee's sake! LOL:biglaugh:

    :rolling::rolling::rolling::rolling::takeoff:
     
  19. tasylshari

    tasylshari New Member

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    Please see JWG's post in the duct tape match thread...respectfully copied, JWG

    When ace reporter Tony Pipitone aired a report on the rarity of the duct tape, he noted that the chances of finding two pieces of this tape linked to the Anthony case is 1 in 250,000. With this latest revelation, that linkage becomes (drum roll please):

    1 in 125 million

    Would be nice if another news outlet can find a fourth piece on a different poster to bring the odds to 1 in 63 billion, just for fun.

    BTW...I finished watching the video news report on this latest find, and noticed that the poster with the duct tape was hung outside. It occurred to me that it is likely that GA / CA used the duct tape in situations where posters were exposed to wind and the elements, but that they did not use the duct tape to hang posters on their doors. Just tossing that out there.
     
  20. Jolynna

    Jolynna Active Member

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    The motions from the defense are a push for the prosecutors to show their hand and further explain their theory of the case.
     
  21. tasylshari

    tasylshari New Member

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    and here's another one by Essies, also respectfully copied::blushing:
    Snipped from article:
    WFTV legal analyst Bill Scheaffer asked: "What are the statistical chances that those three pieces of duct tape did not come from the same source roll, that roll belonging to the Anthonys?"

    Sheaffer said those similarities will be obvious to a jury. This evening, Belich reported that the defense "would not respond to anything that hasn't been entered as evidence in the case."
    http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/en...wftv-wesh-rebut-defense-team-on-evidence.html
     
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