2010.11.30 DNA Due Back in 45 Days

Discussion in 'Caylee Anthony 2 years old' started by LiveLaughLuv, Nov 30, 2010.

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Will DNA on Caylee's shorts/shirt/Whitney bag bring any viable evidence?

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  2. Yes

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  3. No evidence after lying in swamp for 6 months

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  4. Plenty of evidence will be found on those items

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  5. other-write in your own

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  6. it will point to George or Cindy Anthony

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  1. LiveLaughLuv

    LiveLaughLuv New Member

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    Seems the testing on Caylee's shorts/shirt and Whitney bag are finished and due back in 45 days...I wonder what will be found, if anything???
     
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  3. LiveLaughLuv

    LiveLaughLuv New Member

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    To be honest, I'm a little worried that after RK kicked the bag he found in the swamp on Suburban, his DNA might be there. Had he not done that, I believe after lying in that swamp for 6 months that there would be no viable evidence to create doubt...JMHO


    Just wondering what everyone else is thinking especially after I heard Baez wants to hold back the motion regarding RK until after the results from the testing are back...JMHO


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  4. chefmom

    chefmom Seriously! Ancient Aliens!

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    I cannot imagine there will be anything useful found. After 6 months in the elements I would be shocked if anything significant were there. Of course, the defense only needs there to be something found, period, in order to try to create reasonable doubt. I think this is just another showing for the sake of appearances. JMO.
     
  5. Nore

    Nore New Member

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    I should think prosecution has already taken care of this.They dont drag their feet.If anything is left after lying in a swamp I will be leery of it.They are grasping at straws.This test simply proves they have NO proof someone else did it. What a waste of tax payers money. :banghead:
     
  6. Intermezzo

    Intermezzo Active Member

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    I know the DNA on the Hair samples is complete(Baez first mentioned that in the 11minute telephone hearing) but I didn't know the Touch DNA on the other 2 items sent to PA was completed yet.

    Was this said in the hearing yesterday?? I must have missed it.
    I thought the Judge asked Baez how long it would take for the Touch DNA to be completed and Baez was fumbling for an approximate date and then Judge Perry said 45 days...will have to go back and listen.
     
  7. LambChop

    LambChop Former Member

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    Obviously if there is no trace of DNA for Caylee and something comes up for RK he would be ruled out because he found the remains. The shorts were in the trash bag so there should be Caylee's DNA found on them. If no DNA found from Caylee it would lead you to believe no other DNA would be found unless it was from the recovery of her remains. Any jury would make sense of that IMO. jmo
     
  8. CarolinaMoon

    CarolinaMoon Active Member

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    The laundry bag underwent standard DNA testing and none was found. Now, the bag and the shorts will be tested for touch DNA, a relatively new field. I read somewhere that there was an outside possibility there could be something on the stretchy waist-band of the shorts which could have been more protected from the elements.

    I believe that the long exposure to the elements and flooding will have erased even the tiniiest amout of DNA.

    For the defense, however, it is possibly their last, best hope to get someone else to put on the hook.
     
  9. krisskross

    krisskross New Member

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    I just listened to the hearing again and I took it that the shorts, t shirt and laundry bag had not been sent out yet. Ashton had only yesterday, been given the signed stipulation (chain of custody waiver) from Baez. Ashton then said he thought the items "would go out today".

    I doubt they will get any viable dna, not one that would yield a full profile.

    That said, Caylee wore that t shirt whilst at Riccardo's. Cindy said she didnt recognize it. The baby may even have slept in it and we are told Caylee would sleep between Riccardo and MOTY. Indeed, MOTY might have worked that out, all on her ownsome. :waitasec: Is that their stab in the dark?

    And would we ever find out, if they only found dna that matched a member of the Anthony family?
     
  10. CarolinaMoon

    CarolinaMoon Active Member

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    kriskross, the shirt (or what remains of it) are not included for the DNA testing.
     
  11. whiteangora

    whiteangora I'm on the right track baby. I was "Born This Way"

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    I'm confused here :waitasec:
    The thread title says DNA due back in 45 days but the first post says testing is finished. When did the testing begin?
     
  12. krisskross

    krisskross New Member

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    Thanks CM........ I must be gettin old.
     
  13. LiveLaughLuv

    LiveLaughLuv New Member

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    I hope I didn't hear wrong....but the September status hearing, His Honor allowed this testing in...I thought I heard Baez state the results are due back in 45 days....if that is incorrect, the testing is not done, this poll would still apply since it is being done...JMHO

    Justice for Caylee

    http://articles.orlandosentinel.com..._1_dna-testing-richard-eikelenboom-dna-expert


    http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1011/29/ijvm.01.html
     
  14. Jolynna

    Jolynna Active Member

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    You are right, because RK found Caylee's remains, he could have looked in the bag and touched. But, RK was very definitive in his LE interview. He insisted that he didn't "touch" anything at the remains scene.OCSO pressed him pretty hard too. And RK said that he ONLY used his worker's stick to poke. He specifically said he didn't touch anything.

    So, there is opportunity for Casey's defense should RK have not been forthcoming about what he did when he found Caylee's remains.

    ICA & George & Cindy were Caylee's caretakers, you'd expect them to dress her, change her diapers, carry and touch the bag that held Caylee's toys. Finding their DNA on Caylee's pants or the ball/laundry bag would not mean anything sinister. After 6 months in the swamp and being wrapped in plastic for days in the trunk of Casey's car their DNA would be degraded and easily contaminated.

    Anybody who touched the shorts and bag just before or while they were collected could contaminate them. We know traces of a lab worker's DNA was picked up during less sensitive testing of the duct tape.

    I think further DNA testing is a smart move by the defense. It makes it look like ICA is looking for the "real killer" and like she isn't afraid of scientific results. There is no risk. You'd expect to find the mother's DNA on her toddler's clothes or toy bag. Any foreign DNA is an opportunity to point the finger at SOD and also to scream about LE and lab sloppiness (they can't be trusted, they make mistakes...blah, blah, blah).


    Articles on the risk of Touch DNA contamination:
    http://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/iuatld/ijtld/1998/00000002/00000005/art00012

    http://columbiauniversity.us/cu/biology/faculty-data/martin-chalfie/resources/nature-2002.pdf

    RK interview (he insists he didn't touch anything except with his stick on page 4):

    http://www.docstoc.com/docs/4782210/Casey-Anthony--Roy-Kronk-Interview-Transcript-released-March-6
     
  15. LiveLaughLuv

    LiveLaughLuv New Member

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    Jolyanna, I do hope that's correct. I somehow recall RK saying he kicked the black bag and a skull rolled out...JMHO


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    LiveLaughLuv New Member

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    http://www.wftv.com/news/25921057/detail.html


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  17. Starfish

    Starfish New Member

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    Would it even matter if DNA from any of the Ant's was discovered on any of the items? I would think not since Caylee lived with these people it would only make sense that their DNA would have the opportunity to find its way to her clothing and to that laundry bag.
     
  18. Jolynna

    Jolynna Active Member

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    Not in my opinion.

    I'd guess that when ICA was "busy" on her phone and computer other familly members pitched in. Caylee's grandparents probably did their share of changing Caylee when potty training accidents happened. Caylee probably crawled up into her grandparent's laps for cuddles and hugs. Plus, I think George and Cindy probably did their share of toy picking up which might include putting balls into the ball bag.
     
  19. impatientredhead

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    If they can find unknown DNA like the Ramsey case it might raise doubt in the minds of people who don't really understand how DNA is transferred.

    But DNA from any, and I do mean any of the known players, means nothing because it could all have occurred in benign circumstance. Even unknown DNA could just be some guy that Casey was in contact with before touching an item, but unidentified DNA would be *somewhat* helpful to the defense.

    Marginal in my opinion though.
     
  20. krisskross

    krisskross New Member

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    As far as Caylee's murderer placing her in a bag that her grandmother or grandfather's dna was found, imo would be less than benign to a jury. It points to the bag originating from the Anthony home, as I suspect the prosecutors will argue with the duct tape.
     
  21. LambChop

    LambChop Former Member

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    Plus the laundry bag belonged to someone else prior to the A's. They got it from a neighbor at a tag sale. Shorts? Anyone of KC's friends could have touched the shorts if KC washed them while visiting, or picked Caylee up, etc. jmo
     

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