2010.12.07 Bruce McCain blasts MCSO on Kyron investigation

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    There is no discernable crime scene, though Skyline School has been dubbed “Ground Zero” for the investigation. Investigators admit there is no physical evidence relating to Kyron or linking anyone – including Terri Horman – to Kyron’s disappearance. No broken eyeglasses. No torn CSI shirt. No bloody handprint. To say MCSO detectives are clueless is not an insult; it’s their own description of the case. Yet some of these investigators have been well-compensated for their time so far.
     
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    At his September 15 press conference, Staton talked much about the task force as a responsible business model. On the six-month anniversary of Kyron’s disappearance Staton finally confessed to the Oregonian’s Maxine Bernstein what many in the public and media already suspected:

    "I wanted to know what's going on because I lost confidence in the investigation," he said. "I felt the case was moving towards a cold case, and I was concerned. We had collected a ton of information, and nothing was being answered."
     
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    Yet there has been no apparent discussion of offering Terri Horman an immunity deal in exchange for leading investigators to the real kidnappers and bringing Kyron home. The likely reason for that is that the district attorney believes that Kyron is not alive or that Terri Horman has no information worth trading for. Otherwise, it’s unfathomable that the district attorney and investigators would allow Kyron to remain a kidnap victim this long hoping to catch Terri Horman in a mistake that leads to her arrest and indictment.
     
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    Wow...that list of indivudual OT amounts just for the month of June is pretty staggering...
     
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    Omg...this is interesting reading...what I've read so far is astounding...and by the way, BeanE...without the hard work you do on research in this case, I don't know what I would do...thank you...
     
  9. matou

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    Wow, Kyron's parents should just hire private detectives and see where that leads them.
     
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    SATURDAY, DECEMBER 04, 2010
    Kyron: Six Months

    http://victoriataftkpam.blogspot.com/2010/12/kyron-six-months.html



    WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 15, 2010
    Kyron Horman Case: Cold? Probably.

    http://victoriataftkpam.blogspot.com/2010/09/kyron-horman-case-cold-probably.html



    MONDAY, JUNE 14, 2010
    Kyron: School Super Carole Smith Please Come on My Show and Talk. Here's My Number 503 225 0860. Ask for Eric.

    http://victoriataftkpam.blogspot.com/2010/06/kyron-school-super-carole-smith-please.html



    Victoria Taft Show: October 1, 2010

    Bruce McCain on Kyron Hormon Task Force

    Part 1 audio: http://www.kpam.com/upload/file/86159.mp3

    Part 2 audio: http://www.kpam.com/upload/file/86160.mp3
     
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    There he is again....the man with the axe to grind. I take nothing Bruce McCain says seriously.
     
  12. BeanE

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    Note that in the December audio interview, McCain keeps referring to Kyron's case as a cold case.

    When Staton presented the task force business plan to the board of commissioners, his co-presenter was Lt. Ned Walls. Lt. Walls is head of MCSO's cold case division.

    If you look in the talk force business plan document, you see that the bi-monthly briefings are given to Lt. Walls.


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    What Is a Cold Case? | National Institute of Justice

    The definition of a cold case varies from agency to agency. The National Institute of Justice currently defines a cold case as any case whose probative investigative leads have been exhausted. In essence, this means a case that is only a few months old may be defined as being "cold."


    http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/nij/journals/260/what-is-cold-case.htm

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    Head of MCSO's Cold Case team:
    Cold Case Team
    Lt Ned Walls

    http://www.mcso.us/public/coldcase.htm


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    Thursday, October 14, 2010 - 9:30 am
    Board of Commissioners Meeting
    Multnomah County, Oregon
    Multnomah Building, Commissioners Board Room 100

    SHERIFF’S OFFICE – 9:30 am
    R-1 BUDGET MODIFICATION MCSO-07 - Requesting General Fund Contingency Transfer to the Sheriff’s Office in the Amount $209,656 for the Kyron Horman Investigation. Presenters: Sheriff Dan Staton and Lieutenant Ned Walls (10 min)

    http://www.co.multnomah.or.us/cc/agenda.shtml

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    MCSO Task Force Business Plan - October 13, 2010

    The TF Sergeant shall provide a bi-monthly case progress briefing to Lieutenant Walls who will forward to the Operations Captain and the Chief Deputy, with presentation of progress to the Sheriff.

    http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/KHTaskForceBusPlanWallsMedia_release.pdf
     
  13. SmoothOperator

    SmoothOperator Sadly what connects all these puzzles is that ther

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    Bean: Thanks VERY much!

    I'm wondering now if Lt. Walls plays some role in certain funding matters. Look down at the bottom of pg 3 and top of pg 4 at the next two items presented at that meeting. Walls and the fiscal staff person presented both of those together also. And neither appears to have anything to do with cold cases.

    I'll do some research. If you find anything related to that please let us know.

    TIA

    http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q...cpu0VP&sig=AHIEtbQPrbPGUPxj-a3Z5kzABAelt80Kiw
     
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    If she was offered a deal and turned it down, would the public know it?
     
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    Respectfully B&IBM

    I see your point about how the information has actually been sent to a person who's the head of cold cases, and that's certainly suggestive.

    But what I've read in the Dec press releases is almost the opposite of this definition of a cold case: It's not that they don't have leads--but sounds like they've got so many, it's taking a long time to track them all down.
     
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    Victoria Taft is a right-wing radio host who has her own agenda to push and ratings to score. It's to her benefit to portray MCSO as spending too much money and getting nowhere. (That's pretty much her stand on anything being done in Portland.)
     
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    Lt. Ned Walls heads up (or IS) the Cold Cases team now. But as of April 6, 2010 he headed up their Special Investigations Unit, supervising one Investigative Technician. Sounds like a demotion, status-wise. Wonder when it happened.

    BTW, looking at more of MCSO's internal workings, they indicate that their SIU cases are predominantly narcotics.

    link: http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q...bUQOWy&sig=AHIEtbQkUprhvnFjuYUtFU0A95y0YxyKJw

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    Oh, it just occurred to me that Walls possibly, and probably wears both hats. It's a small staff. I'll look further
     
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    I don't know any history whatsoever about this guy, but to me it seems self-serving the way he's inserted himself in this case along the way. We at WS all look and talk, sure. Still, I'm not sure he deserves a full fifteen minutes of fame over his monday morning quarterbacking. Enough already. IMO. JMO.
     
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    IMO, PPB should be involved with helping to solve this case. No offense to them, but MCSO doesn't seem to have the expertise needed. Kyron's parents should also hire a group which specializes in child abduction recovery. You would think that with the amount of human trafficking going on in Portland, Kyron's parents would be able to find a reputable group. Kyron deserves every measure to be found.
     
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    Yeah, McCain has been standing back throwing rocks at MCSO since the beginning of the case and just recently I wondered why he hasn't grumbled in the news in a while, lol!

    Not really sure what the gripe is with overtime - police earn overtime pay as part of their contract, this case certainly called for round the clock LE, some indeed worked around the clock to find Kyron and the result is that they're paid for the time they've put in. Not sure when things have ever worked differently, though maybe someone can find records of cases where LE has worked for free. Of course she also included "earnings, salary-related fringe and insurance" - not like their checks for the month were that big, and in fact I'm a little surprised at how relatively little MCSO officers earn. Interesting.

    I wonder what her point was about the overtime - that LE shouldn't have been working overtime during the search for a missing child? That they should have worked without pay? That they shouldn't have been paid unless they found him?

    And the search thing made sense given what they knew from the outset. Did Terri tell them Kyron was having seizures and wandering and forgetting where he was? Statistically, is it more likely for a child to wander away and get lost or get kidnapped from the hall outside their classroom? A search for him near the school made absolute sense, IMO. What would have been really weird is if a little boy is missing, mom says he's been having seizures and wandering and forgetting, and LE launches a massive criminal investigation.
     

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