Discussion in 'Zahra Clare Baker' started by MandiJayne, Feb 21, 2011.
Great post and THANK YOU!!!!
I'm gonna do some research on this and get back to ya.
Discussions of how reliable the option of inmate vigilante violence might be as a means of revenge might be scaled back, IMO
Please try to stay on topic.
It's a shame that there won't be enough punishment meted out to EB for the attrocities she committed.
This is excellent news to hear! Justice for Zahra! :great: :woohoo:
I know! I was :lol: at EB for thinking that. Oh, & don't worry, even if AB doesn't get charged with anything, his life would forever be a living he77 in the eyes of the community.
If he truly is a victim, then my heart goes out to him.
EB was arraigned on Tuesday for the recent 2nd degree murder charge. Her next court date is April 4. Her current lawyer Reilly was appointed to represent her for that date. No mention of Ms. Dubbs.
Charlotte Observer reports:
"According to Bogle, Ervin offered Baker a choice to be represented by one of her current attorneys Reilly or Lisa Dubs or a new attorney. Baker chose Reilly."
I wonder why?
He's a man.
ETA: And because Dubs wouldn't let her speak... imo
Perhaps her life experience has taught her that, when it comes to manipulating people, she is far more successful with men than with women.
LMBO at our cross posts!
just to go OT here, but what I find really sad from your research above is that 92% of women in jail have been battered or abused. I have read so much on this and how abused quite often go on to be abusers, in the case of women however I think it tends to manifest in self destructive behaviour, be it drugs, alcohol (or both) promiscious behaviour, mental health conditions which lead to violent behaviour ie murder.
I have said this over and over but if somehow the cycle of abuse can be stopped so much tragedy in this world would not happen.
Just to say tho I really dont think old elisa has been abused or battered (we of course dont know about sexually) but something has gone on with her, I personally think she is a sociopath and it has to be all about her
Please stay on topic.
I wonder why she opted for Reilly rather than Dubs, the woman who scored her the deal of a century?
Maybe EB does not feel it was such a deal afterall? hmmm
very good point tlcox!!!
and you are right she probably does not realize how good of a deal she got
LOL, they only have lethal injection in NC. You might be thinking of AL.
I wondered the same thing, TL. This is the deal Dubbs originally made for her, in exchange for her cooperation, right? Nothing changed, did it? Did she expect Dubbs to somehow get her a better deal?!
I think Dubbs got herself in a whole lot of hot water by "retrieving evidence" and not notifying LE first. She just "bagged and tagged" and brought it to LE and said "here - it was right where she told me it was". IMO Dubbs also got a few "other things" that were strong evidence without LE's knowledge.
Any good DA could have had any deal on the table thrown out with that kind of behavior.
I don't think EB chose but more like Dubbs walked away and didn't look back.
Jennifer Moxley's FB Page
Defense attorney Lisa Dubs who represented Elisa Baker speaks out. More at noon
At least we know now the potential sentence could be 40 years. I can almost accept that (I still believe she deserves a needle), provided there is no eligibility for parole. Other than the citizens of Hickory, there will be no one to speak for Zahra at a future parole hearing, sadly.