2011.06.09 Sidebar (Trial Day Fourteen):

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Someone (a lady..sorry, didn't catch her name)on HLN said that the duct tape was put on in a circle. I didn't understand this. Can someone explain??

Complete circle around Caylee's head.
 
ICA has been returned to the OCJ and is being seen by medical personal there.
 
Someone (a lady..sorry, didn't catch her name)on HLN said that the duct tape was put on in a circle. I didn't understand this. Can someone explain??

Three layers of tape across her nose and mouth and around to the back of her skull. It was still attached to her hair..
 
So now ICA is receiving medical treatment? (Which apparently is true)

Heart transplant?

OR

Just overmedicated by the defense?

I would surmise that someone...not naming WHO...overmedicated her?

Or she just hates clutter? Meaning collateral clutter? Such a mess...with the Caylee dying and all of that?

OR she is just faking IT? WHERE WERE THESE REACTIONS DURING THE 31 DAYS? OH I FORGET, INVOLUNTARY NIGHT TERRORS.

I thought overmedicated also probably why she was so thirsty!
Or the meds were in the water!
 
I truly believe that duct tape spanned Caylee's entire tiny little face. eyes, nose, mouth.
 
Just caught back up here, and if this question has been posed, my apologies, But, when the ME and Jeff A., were referring to "the" skull, "the" matted hair, etc., WHY didn't they say her skull, or in Jeff Ashton's case Caylee's, each time a part of discussion was referenced? I think Caylee's name should have been said, EVERYTIME they spoke of her remains. Referencing "the skull" etc., is so impersonal and irreverent to her as an individual human being.
JMO
Perhaps they needed the jury to view this info objectively. If they had gotten all emotional, they could very well have shut down and not remembered what they had seen. I think it's horrendous enough to have viewed it in a calm manner. They need to remember today...this needs to stick in their brains.
JMO
 
IDK about Florida, but here she would be checked out at the jail, and most likely only receive an aspirin, if anything. It takes an act of Congress for inmates to even get an aspirin here, they are treated as if in bootcamp. Florida is a bit more advanced it seems.

There is usually a Nurse of some kind on staff, they can check her. They are used to seeing this kind of behavior -malingering, attention seeking.
 
Could also be a tactic to allow her DT time to regroup after todays damaging evidence.

jmo

That is what I think is going on. They need to regroup and study the testimony from today and call in some favors from others who can help them come up with some better questions that they have asked so far in cross. This is devastating for their defense so far. They need some help.
 
I saw that to,, said it was not completely wrapped around her head,,,just like three straight pieces.
Was it the ME during the trial that said it??
 
IDK about Florida, but here she would be checked out at the jail, and most likely only receive an aspirin, if anything. It takes an act of Congress for inmates to even get an aspirin here, they are treated as if in bootcamp. Florida is a bit more advanced it seems.

If you dont mind me asking but where is "here"?
 
slightly o/t but I decided to re watch the DT opening statement again ((not to torture my own self but I just want to see what we have debunked already))... it is very interesting to watch again...


oh.. I drink my water right from the tap! (except for 6 years when we were stationed in Germany)
 
Did you notice the female guard that escorted her out ? She had this really "I'm so tired of this little b****' look on her face as she approached her and then she prodded ICA to move.
It was amusing!

No!! LOL I missed it!! I wonder if they have the video up yet. I guess I was too busy swearing. :innocent:
 
I truly believe that duct tape spanned Caylee's entire tiny little face. eyes, nose, mouth.

The eyes were not covered. The orbits can be seen in the first pictures, Vinnie is just talking about the 'eye sockets' being above ground and clearly visible. He was truly horrified at how much duct tape was all over her nose and mouth- he put his entire hand over his face and said 'picture this'....
 
Oh Boy. After seeing these blurred pictures on HLN, I am glad I didn't see the originals.

I prefer to remember Caylee the way she was. This is just too disturbing. :cry:

Once again! Good decision CJBP! :gavel:
 
I am confused. When JA was asking the ME to describe the circumferential thing...I thought he was asking about the skull being in the dirt....that it was all the way around the head. I didn't realize he was talking about the duct tape. ARe we sure?

TIA
 
Were GA and CA in the courtroom during the testimony on the duct tape??
 
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