2011.06.23 TRIAL Day Twenty-six (Afternoon Session)

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  1. RR0004

    RR0004 New Member

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    So what are they trying to sneak in now?
     
  2. grandmathatadopted2

    grandmathatadopted2 New Member

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    It is a transponder for the toll roads that attaches to your car to pay the tolls with credit card. usually assigned to a specific car.
     
  3. MelissaLee

    MelissaLee Three things cannot be long hidden: the sun, the m

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    LOL! NS has never seen this email prior to CM just showing it to him now. As he wasn't COPIED or in the TO line of the email, no big surprise. Except to the DT. HILARIOUS!!!!!!!!
     
  4. wenwe4

    wenwe4 Well-Known Member

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    Nickolas B. Savage - tell us your name sir...yes (he repeats)
    during my time assigned to division work on kc - crimes against children coordinator...nat. center for analysis violent crime...in Feb 2009 attended meeting with numerous prosecution team...yes ...discuss possible whether duct tape covered nose and mouth of a child...object- work product...Mr. Mason HHBP - I guess it could be sustained under work product

    what did you do if anything...meeting with prosecution - find photos for prosecution - coordinated with Karen Cowen - day in and day out contact withthe lab...specific request for pictures taken by OC ME photos with scales....locate photos taken by ME office here - possibly yes....remember requesting of Karen Lowe or Erin Martin for the photos that should have been taken - scale size of the duct tape...request made of the lab....reason asked for those - I asked didn't believe those photos had been taken up until that point....receive a responding email from Martin @ FBI - don't believe so...may I approach marked (doesn't look like Nickolas Savage - Erin Martin here - just seen email) recognize it yes...receive a copy of this yourself...first time I saw it when shown by members of your office - (object overrule)

    this is a profer -
    this is the first time I have seen this - this is not the one I looked @ earlier - first time I have seen that email....

    CM - all the questions I need of this witness is profer your honor.

    JA - address the ....know what counsel thinks is admissable ....maybe after counsel I will call him back.....agent may stand down






     
  5. cloud9

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    Exactly! :)
     
  6. mombomb

    mombomb New Member

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    SIDEBAR #11 (4:47-4:49)

    Jury is excused.

    LDB and JA - next 2 witnesses?

    JA - Nick Savage and Officer Erin Martin. They have no first hand knowledge of anything. Suggest proffer.

    HHJBP - Mr. Mason will you be conducting the direct?

    CM - yes - doesn't want to give a prerun.

    JA - the only thing Erin Martin does for the FBI is to take into evidence and send it somewhere else. He assumes the defense wants to know what she is told by someone else.

    CM - it's an interesting process to tell them in advance what is coming. Nick Savage will testify as to certain things he did on behalf of the prosecution and Erin Martin will testify as to what she did in response.

    JA - already had an issue with the Defense asking an analyst about a paternity test which was deemed irrelevant.

    CM - if an FBI has memorialized in an email that they have been asked to create a murder weapon and responded that they would just tell them they didn't take the pictures.

    JA - the tape isn't on trial. The integrity of whatever it is is not on trial.

    HHJBP - I'd like to hear it. I can hear it now or at 8:30. We are going to start testimony at 9:00

    CM calls FBI Agent Nick Savage:

    He was the lead FBI agent at the time. He was the crimes against children coordinator and innocent image coordinator.

    He attended a meeting where prosecutors were present.

    Did you recall whether duct tape was discussed?

    OBJECTION - discussion with prosecutors is work product - SUSTAINED

    CM: I guess it could be.

    What did you do as a result? Did you try to find photos? Yes. What did you do in order to find them? He would have coordinated with Karen Kowen?

    Did you make a specific request for photos that may have been taken by the ME? Possibly, yes.

    Did you request of Karen Lowe or Erin Martin? There was a request through the lab?

    Why did you request them? He asked for them because he did not believe that the photos had been taken up until that point.

    Did you receive a responding email from Erin Martin? He did not believe so.

    JA said this witness was not indicated in the "To" line.

    He was shown the email - Defendant's DL. He recognized the email. He first saw it when shown by the Defense. He then stated this was the first time he had seen this email. It was not the same email he was referring to earlier.

    No more proffer questions by CM.

    JA - admissibility issues - no questions for the witness.

    Agent may stand down. 5:03
     
  7. RR0004

    RR0004 New Member

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    How did CM get it so wrong?
     
  8. TiaM

    TiaM Calm and Watchful Now

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    I hope there is an unruly mob surrounding them chanting "LIAR! LIAR! LIAR!" and drowning them out. :maddening:
     
  9. liltexans

    liltexans Retired WS Staff

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    Mason now asking Savage about an email. He says he didn't send it, has never seen it before. #CaseyAnthony
    by oscaseyanthony via twitter at 4:02 PM

    Savage says this is the first time he has seen this email.
    by Gabe Travers/WESH.com at 4:02 PM
     
  10. kellypr

    kellypr New Member

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    I just came in from a meeting - what's going on with the FBI guy and this email, etc.?
     
  11. Socprof

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    I wondered why the state did not tersely remind Cindy that she was under oath, or did I miss such an admonishment?
     
  12. ExpectingUnicorns

    ExpectingUnicorns . . . only the pure of heart can see.

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    CM has me so confused. Oh, wait, maybe it's me and not really his fault?
     
  13. twall

    twall Well-Known Member

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    There is no way neat nick GA would purchase a 2 yo car with a huge stain in the trunk. Stain removal techniques now a days are advanced, I don't believe the dealership would put it on the lot like that, they would remove the stain or replace the trunk liner.
     
  14. Eidetic

    Eidetic Open your eyes to the millions of lies that they t

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    Does it happen after you post? :twocents:
     
  15. yeknomaras

    yeknomaras New Member

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    shooooooould we be worried here? wtf is all this?
     
  16. USARDOG

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    Think CA's "testimony" caused a temporary loss of my sense of humor. :banghead:
     
  17. Donjeta

    Donjeta Adji Desir, missing from Florida

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    I got completely lost during that proffer. Totally failed to get the point. I don't even know if he's coming back tomorrow or not, or if the judge ruled on it...

    Time to sign off i guess.
     
  18. LongtimeMedic

    LongtimeMedic Former Member

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    :banghead: Sorry, but the State looks like they are in an unrecoverable tailspin. She can get off because of them!!!:maddening:
     
  19. adb263

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    Is their a press conference right now?
     
  20. strach304

    strach304 New Member

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    No that was Apling Wells (sp) called him Appy. He works for Orlando LE.
     
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