2011.07.17 Casey Released From Jail

[Chilly Willy]

Here are those handwritten notes. They're a great read:

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/25605534/detail.html

Thanks, I don't recall seeing those before. Interesting - Casey said she gave chloroform to Caylee in bed.

 

[manatee]

Good question! And the answer appears to be NO...

Dr. Harry Krop, the forensic psychologist who examined Casey behind bars for over 20 hours said on HLN's Dr. Drew Show, “I do not believe – based on all of my interactions with her, as well as the psychological testing, I don’t believe that she has any diagnosable mental illness." He added, “...when I’m referring to mental illness, I’m referring to a psychiatric or a psychological disorder. A person must meet certain behavioral criteria to be actually diagnosed with a mental illness."

In reference to Casey being either a psychopath or a sociopath...Dr. Krop said, "she doesn’t have an Axis II disorder." When asked, “Does she have what we call borderline traits or sociopathic traits?” Dr. Krop responded, “No.”

Dr. Krop was a former forensic psychology expert for the State of Florida (handled cases throughout Florida). Over the course of his career, he has evaluated over 2,000 murder cases. Currently, Dr. Krop works in private practice and is an associate professor in the Department of Psychiatry at UF.

actually on his second show with Dr. Drew he did say that she did have narcistic personality traits. Again, Dr. Krop is the same doc that thought Danny Rollings-gainesville ripper- was a perfectly sane individual :

"At the end of Krop's questioning, he prepared to leave, confident that Rolling was in fact competent and sane, but Rolling interrupted Krop as he started to leave.

Rolling asked Krop if he could talk about crimes other than the armed robbery and if everything he said was confidential. Krop told him yes, unless his speech presented a future threat.

Rolling told Krop there was no threat - his murders had already happened.

For the next three hours, Rolling recounted to his confidant the brutal details of his murders. Krop said Rolling seemed relieved after his confession. "

http://www.alligator.org/app/pt2/specials/rolling/krop2.html


So take this Dr. Krups assessment to mean FCA is as sane as DAnny Rollings was! If Rollings had not confessed he would have also thought Danny was just a little immature and narcissistic. See immaturity just means someone is "stuck" on that "me, me, me" stage where the world revolves around them, they have impulse control problems and do not really empathize with others feelings...much like a two yr old. :waitasec:

 

[Ada]

Has anyone started a list of jobs that she might find. I would think it would be best for her to work somewhere where the public could not see her.

+Telemarketing
+Phone Support
+Stuffing Envelopes
+Stockroom Work
+Dishwasher feel free to add

She could work on a loading dock, but, maybe it's better if she's kept away from heavy machinery.

 

[bobloblaw]

So, if you see your 30 year old child with a drug problem, do you not try to help them, or do you just say, hey they are to old?

I certainly wouldn't accept any blame for their CHOICE as an ADULT. Casey was and is an ADULT fully responsible for herself and her baby. Full Stop.

 

[LinasK]

So, if you see your 30 year old child with a drug problem, do you not try to help them, or do you just say, hey they are to old?

You don't let them continue to live under your roof and steal from you and lie. You do try to get them into therapy, NONE of which Cindy did.

 

[Melanie]

Has anyone started a list of jobs that she might find. I would think it would be best for her to work somewhere where the public could not see her.

+Telemarketing
+Phone Support
+Stuffing Envelopes
+Stockroom Work
+Dishwasher feel free to add

No way am I gonna be the lying slunts (Jose's words not mine) headhunter. She can go find her own job ideas!

:floorlaugh::floorlaugh:

Mel

 

[Sustained]

Has anyone started a list of jobs that she might find. I would think it would be best for her to work somewhere where the public could not see her.

+Telemarketing
+Phone Support
+Stuffing Envelopes
+Stockroom Work
+Dishwasher feel free to add

+Chloroform mixer
+Duct tape/shovel salesperson
+Lie detector machine salesperson
+Car detailer assigned specifically to trunks
+*advertiser censored* actress
+Apartment rental specialist

 

[Ada]

hand model.

Sorry to disagree, but, did you see her hands?

 

[USARDOG]

I don't see the police turning into a FCA body guards. She is going to have threats everywhere she goes, and IMO, they won't keep following her around to protect her. They don't follow anyone else around. Think of all the people who have protection orders against an x-spouse or x-boyfriend. People who have had real threats made against them, they don't get followed around. No, I think ICA will have to provide her own body guards, the police have kept her safe through her incarceration, their job is done, IMO.

 

[AbbieNormal]

nope, if she should be stupid to come to where i am, snarling her teeth,glaring, jutting her jaw, or doing that little clench face( the jail tapes..COME ON!remember that?) or what ever;at me, nope im not afraid, she is going to get BIT> and i dont have my shots either!

i wondered if parents were (eventual) targets, just the infamous fight on 6-15/and the threats to get custody of caylee, probably was straw that broke camels back, and a shove in direction of her plans..ie, taking caylee out instead of ga and/or ca

I don't think biting her and getting her blood and tissue in your mouth. After all the men she has run through, God only knows what diseases she harbors!!!!

 

[RoseRed]

While I would not shed a tear if Casey were struck my lightening, hit by a bus or shot by a sniper, I really don't think the public have much to worry about with her being free. She was accused of killing her child, not a stranger's child. She's certainly no Ted Bundy, although some here would beg to differ.

I'm as pissed off as the next person that she's walking free but let's face it, she's no Nightstalker or BTK killer. As long as everyone keeps their cheques locked up and no one impregnates her, she should be good to go! <tongue in cheek>

My advice for the people that seem to be having a difficult time coping with the verdict, take a break from here and the news, do something completely different, go to the beach, go camping...whatever to distract you from it.
Last week I was so mad I could spit nails, then I went camping for 4 days with no internet or tv and I am in a much better frame of mind and seeing things in a whole new light.

I agree with you but what breaks my heart is all the blatant hatred. I am so shocked at the amount of hatred in peoples hearts. I just can't understand it.

 

[Italy]

I understand that she is out of jail.
I understand that she cannot be retried due to Double Jeopardy
I understand that a jury acquitted her of the unlawful killing of her child.

What I don't understand is why.

Why must I accept a verdict I consider patently wrong?
Why must I "get over" what I believe to be a miscarriage of justice?
Why must I change my opinion of her?
Why must I hope she goes on to live happily ever after?

I saw the trial too. There was little evidence presented that the jury saw that I did not. I have read many, many supporting documents. I have reviewed the evidence and depositions. In my deliberations, she was found guilty.

Tough luck if you don't like it - I really don't care.

 

[AbbieNormal]

nope, if she should be stupid to come to where i am, snarling her teeth,glaring, jutting her jaw, or doing that little clench face( the jail tapes..COME ON!remember that?) or what ever;at me, nope im not afraid, she is going to get BIT> and i dont have my shots either!

i wondered if parents were (eventual) targets, just the infamous fight on 6-15/and the threats to get custody of caylee, probably was straw that broke camels back, and a shove in direction of her plans..ie, taking caylee out instead of ga and/or ca

I don't think biting her and getting her blood and tissue in your mouth. After all the men she has run through, God only knows what diseases she harbors!!!!

 

[Padua]

Sorry to disagree, but, did you see her hands?

I was being sarcastic. No one would see her face if she just modeled her hands!

 

[Nikki 01]

So, if you see your 30 year old child with a drug problem, do you not try to help them, or do you just say, hey they are to old?

Sure, but if your 30 old child gets busted for drugs is it your fault regardless if you helped them or not?

I believe the Anthonys are the ultimate enablers and helped create the monster Casey became. I think they should forever feel guilt over that. Yet that doesn't mitigate Casey's responsibility for her own actions. She was an adult that knew right from wrong. She alone chose to murder her child.

 

[natsound]

She could work on a loading dock, but, maybe it's better if she's kept away from heavy machinery.

All kidding aside, if she made a real effort to go though college and work, she would probably be accepted into society. It would be fascinating to see someone so reviled at one time, fight her way through. Who knows? She can't hide forever.

 

[Velouria]

So, if you see your 30 year old child with a drug problem, do you not try to help them, or do you just say, hey they are to old?

That depends. What if you've been trying to help that same child for years while he stole, lied, and even endangered the lives of others? At some point, you accept that you cannot control what your adult child does, and it's up to him to make positive changes.

 

[Chablis]

I certainly wouldn't accept any blame for their CHOICE as an ADULT. Casey was and is an ADULT fully responsible for herself and her baby. Full Stop.

Well, anyone in my house who was lying about having a job and a nanny and was in charge of my grandchild would be committed by me, or signing over parental rights, because what goes on in my house is my business and if I chose to ignore all that and something happened to my grandchild because I was too afraid to confront my daughter for fear of conflict, I would never forgive myself.

 

[aeneas1]

The murder charges aside, do you even remember the things she has admittedly done ?

--She stole form her invalid grandfathers hospice account so she could pay her cell bill.

--While her 'best friend' was away she allowed Casey to use her car. Casey repaid her by stealing her checkbook and stealing 1200 bucks, cleaning out her account.

--Knowing her child was dead, she accepted 'donations' from people for her search efforts.

--She tried to point LE in the direction of several innocent people, trying to implicate them in her child's death.

--She had several people who would babysit for her for free, so she could go 'to work.' But she had no job, she just partied with friends while others sacrificed their time to watch her child.

---She cashed hundreds of her mother's checks, forging them each time.

Knowing all of this, you would hire her for your business?

wanting to back an opinion is one thing - but to say you would give casey a job, as did gladiatorqueen, to bolster a point, well that strikes as a bit extreme. at least by owning your own business you wouldn't have to explain to board members or stockholders what possessed you to hire the likes of casey when the brown stuff hit the fan, which of course it would. i've owned my own business for 15 years and not only would i NOT hire casey, i would not hire anyone with her past (lying about past employment, lying to others including state and federal law enforcement, stealing, no high school diploma... need i go on?). but, hey, that's just me - color me unreasonable for not wanting to give such a person another shot on my dime....

 

[Ada]

All kidding aside, if she made a real effort to go though college and work, she would probably be accepted into society. It would be fascinating to see someone so reviled at one time, fight her way through. Who knows? She can't hide forever.

She has to get through high school first. Not holding my breath. :crazy: