2011.10.18 - Police searching 2 locations

Discussion in 'Lindsey Baum' started by JenniferO, Oct 18, 2011.

  1. Snowball58

    Snowball58 New Member

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    The reporter may have misquoted him. 20th and 28th sound similar...
     


  2. Taisdealach

    Taisdealach New Member

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    hard to believe there would be any evidence after all this time. This was a crime commited by a detailed and organized person.
     
  3. kai

    kai Well-Known Member

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    Praying that something is/was found in these searches!
     
  4. Jules71

    Jules71 Well-Known Member

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    Good question. I would think it would be ok.


    I am remembering talk about a telephone pole along the way of Lindsey's walk but I can't remember what that was about. Also about a vehicle being pulled along the side of the road on the wrong side (heading in wrong direction) - but I need to refresh my mind about that. Wondering how close either of those are to the jewelry shop.
     
  5. cleo612

    cleo612 My reason for waking up each day!

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    I find it interesting that the lights were turned off in the jewelry shop and THEN pictures were taken. This indicates to me that they were likely using luminol and that they saw something that they wanted to record.

    Kimster, if too much speculative thinking, please feel free to delete. I just happened in here for the first time in months and this was the first thread I saw. Needless to say, my heart is thumping out of my chest in hopes that this leads to answers for Lindsay.
     
  6. Jenny60123

    Jenny60123 Just Us for Caylee Marie

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    Sending out prayers that Lindsey is found very soon, and for peace for her poor family.
     
  7. JourneyRain

    JourneyRain Member

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    Lindsey I hope you are found soon!
     
  8. Knox

    Knox Well-Known Member

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    BBM- Hartman certainly fits that profile, MOO.

    Look at all the agencies involved. LE can't get warrants based on overheard conversations, rumor, innuendo or speculation. There's a very specific reason this man's business and home are being searched.

    Please God, help them find Lindsey!!!!!
     
  9. JenniferO

    JenniferO Fear has a large shadow, but she herself is small.

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    I agree 100% with everything you say.
     
  10. ChuckMaureen

    ChuckMaureen Well-Known Member

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    I would disagree that "speculation" could never be the basis for which a SW may be issued.

    http://www.thenewstribune.com/2011/10/19/1870535/mccleary-warrants-served-in-lindsey.html

    When LE is up against the wall, with only minimal evidence and eyewitness accounts of observation within an obviously limited physical potential crime scene route, along with (possibly inconsistent) responses from a POI that don't match up to being a valid alibi, I should think "speculation" might equate to an LE "educated guess" and become the basis for a SW to further the investigation.

    The jewelry store is along the expected route LB would travel.

    Eyewitnesses place LB within 10s of yards immediately before the jewelry store.

    Surveillance recordings from the gas station do not reveal LB passing within the limited viewing angles of the cameras.

    The jewelry store owner allegedly has provided changing stories regarding his whereabouts that evening.

    Proof of nothing, yet LE had to make an "educated guess" (i.e.: "speculate" on possibilities) and submit for a SW.

    Here's another example of an LE "educated guess" SW: http://www.kirotv.com/news/21186766/detail.html

    Eyewitnesses place a white vehicle in the vicinity that evening.

    The vehicle owner misrepresented his whereabouts multiple times for that evening.

    It was reported by a gf that the vehicle owner indicated a belief that LB had been "cut up".


    What might be interpreted as incriminating behavior and commentary doesn't always result in finding a 'perp' .. but apparently it's enough for with which to obtain a SW.
     
  11. Knox

    Knox Well-Known Member

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    ChuckMaureen, have you considered there is information that has not been released to the media and that you are privy too?
     
  12. breanna

    breanna Let's find Lindsey

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    I firmly believe this is the case. I think there was more than enough information for this search warrant, I'm just surprised it took this long for it to happen.

    I don't believe in witch hunts and false information floating around or LE executing search warrants based on he said/she said or second hand info or rumors. I think they looked at it logically and then applied that logic. It just took a while.

    I'm sorry for Hartman's friends and family who say he would never do such a thing ever.....I get that. But where have we heard this before?
     
  13. ChuckMaureen

    ChuckMaureen Well-Known Member

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    Yes .. but I'll believe the value of the recent SWs if they result in an arrest.
     
  14. mike98541

    mike98541 New Member

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    anyone have any updates on the search of the jewelry store?
     
  15. SarahC

    SarahC Inactive

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    I haven't heard anything. I guess all we can do is keep close watch on news and for any statements from police.
     
  16. mike98541

    mike98541 New Member

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  17. ~greeneyedgirl~

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    Nothing yet?

    Where are you little one?


    Sent from my iPhone using Taptalk
     
  18. Simply Caustic

    Simply Caustic Verified Expert

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    I'd like to thank all the locals for posting, and keeping us up-to-date on all the happenings in McCleary.

    I truly appreciate all your hard work...and you taking the time to keep us updated.
     
  19. RoseWhite

    RoseWhite Member

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    I still think of Lindsey a lot. And I wish her home.
     
  20. JenniferO

    JenniferO Fear has a large shadow, but she herself is small.

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    I picked up the search warrants for the Tim Hartman searches.

    Only parts of them are public. The affidavits are sealed. I got a list of the items removed from his house, car and business.

    Let me know if you guys want me to type them out and post them (I can't scan the copies because I found out today that my scanner isn't working :( )
     

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