2015.11.30 IRS Tax Lien Form 1040 for the year ending 2013

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  1. Riversinthedesert

    Riversinthedesert New Member

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    Not sure where to post this but a federal tax lien was recorded on 11/30/15. The document itself is not viewable on the Lee County Clerk's site. However, it appears there are financial difficulties which would be expected since the primary source of income ceased to exist.

    Instrument # PreviousPrev 2015000255699 NextNext
    Document Type: (LI) Lien
    Modified Date: 11/30/2015 1:04:47 PM
    Record Date : 11/30/2015 1:04:41 PM
    Grantor: DEPARTMENT OF THE TREASURY INTERNAL REVENUE SERVICE
    Grantee: SIEVERS MARK D
    SIEVERS TERESA A
    Book Type: O
    # of Pages: 1
    Legal: IRS-NOTICE OF FEDERAL TAX LIEN
    Ref# 610681

    http://apps.leeclerk.org/OR/ShowDetails.aspx?id=14275030&direct=1
     
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  3. cpeacock1

    cpeacock1 Well-Known Member

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    Whoa...the IRS don't mess around.

    Thanks for the info Riversinthedesert.
     
  4. DexterMorgan

    DexterMorgan Well-Known Member

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    It takes a while for the irs to lien your property or accounts. It takes months of not paying nothing nor working out a payment plan.

    So maybe this was part of the financial ruins that were building before TS was killed. And it was suppose to be paid with the life insurance policy.

    So maybe he had financial motives to have her killed in order to keep living the lifestyle and without her finding out that he was robbing her finances blind. Idk.
     
  5. Lilibet

    Lilibet Watching and Waiting

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    Yes, this is a big deal. What a mess. I can't imagine that TS knew that their taxes hadn't been paid. MS must have kept her in the dark. Once the letter demanding payment arrives and is ignored, a lien is automatic in ten days, so I imagine that letter arrived after TS was killed. The IRS says it will work with you if you can't pay your taxes, so it would appear that MS made no effort to get a plan going with IRS.

    Basically with a lien the IRS has a claim against all his property, including any acquired after this notice is filed. Eventually they could file a levy and take the property. In the meantime, this affects his credit rating (the least of his worries I guess). I had to google all this because I know nothing about NOT paying taxes. I can't imagine just ignoring them, or at the very least, not contacting the IRS to work something out. Yikes!

    https://www.irs.gov/taxtopics/tc201.html

    More information at this link.
    https://www.irs.gov/Businesses/Small-Businesses-&-Self-Employed/Understanding-a-Federal-Tax-Lien
     
  6. Lilibet

    Lilibet Watching and Waiting

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    BBM

    I think you're onto something Dex. Such a betrayal on so many levels if this is what happened.
    JMO
     
  7. PeskySlueth

    PeskySlueth New Member

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    is that on their house or business address?
     
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    PeskySlueth New Member

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    What a find! I think you've split the case wide open! It's much worse than i even dreamed!
     
  9. Chi83

    Chi83 New Member

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    I seem to remember a case where the husband had a business but the wife managed finances, the exact opposite of this situation. They had a really nice lifestyle also, but the husband was under the assumption that the wife was paying the taxes. She wasn't and the IRS kept trying to make arrangements. Finally they demanded to speak to the husband and just before the meeting was to take place, she killed him, thinking this would end the collection efforts. She was wrong, of course.

    IMO it all makes sense for me now. But can it be proven in a court of law?
     
  10. Lilibet

    Lilibet Watching and Waiting

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    My understanding of the info I posted earlier is that it's on everything they own, including anything purchased from now on too. But I'm not a tax lien expert. I just google. :)
     
  11. DexterMorgan

    DexterMorgan Well-Known Member

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    That is definitely 1 way to steal from the business. You tell the wife that you are withdrawing the 20k to pay the irs for the business and personal taxes owed. But then you pocket the money with the intent on paying it back. Then you throw the irs kibbles and bits throughout the year on a minor payment plan; But you turn around and do the 20k withdrawal again for this year tax scam. Now you are still about 40k in debt to the irs after interest and late fees. Plus you will soon have to face the music with your wife, since you basically stole her money plus leaving her in a 40k or so debt with the irs at the same time.

    I wonder if her sister should get a copy of Teresa's credit report; Just to see how the finances were looking. And to see if debtors are on there for things that Teresa would have never authorized or gotten. Jmo
     
  12. DexterMorgan

    DexterMorgan Well-Known Member

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    I'm sure all private doctors with business and home and hubby and kids; Will always go long form when filing taxes for the year. Which means some type of accountant will at least help them fill out the forms which need to be filed.

    So I would think that their accountant would know something. Or Mark also tried to be her personal tax accountant as well as the office manager along with being the at home money manager who doesn't like to use all the money for the bills that it was intended for. Idk
     
  13. ATasteOfHoney

    ATasteOfHoney Active Member

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    When the IRS is involved, it's taxes on the business that is owed.


    So, IMO this is all about the business & yes, the IRS doesn't play. They can seize all assets including real estate.
     
  14. Lilibet

    Lilibet Watching and Waiting

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    I'm afraid to ask how you know all this stuff Dex! :eek: I guess I'm just naive. :dunno: After all, my tutu biz isn't that profitable since you're my only customer. :)

    I wouldn't be surprised if LE has a copy of Teresa's credit report. And I imagine LE saw this lien coming a mile off.
     
  15. Lilibet

    Lilibet Watching and Waiting

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    Maybe CWW was his "accountant." Or MS's stint as a dealer at a casino made him feel qualified. :D
     
  16. ATasteOfHoney

    ATasteOfHoney Active Member

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    So the question remains:

    Was he simply hiding their glib financial situation from TS so he wouldn't have to get a 9 to 5 job somewhere?

    Or was there something more nefarious going on?
     
  17. Lilibet

    Lilibet Watching and Waiting

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    Just to clarify, I meant that the lien is on everything they own, including the house, but yes, the taxes owed were for the business.
     
  18. DexterMorgan

    DexterMorgan Well-Known Member

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    No worries my friend. Let's just say that I have the irs on speed dial and this is reminding me to give them a call. Lol. But they keep you on hold for 2hrs and then the person who answers always accidentally drops the call; Which leaves you having to call back and be on hold for another 2hrs. Lol.

    Btw. Don't cash that last check that I sent to you for my tutu order. Lol. It may not clear and my chihuahuas and meerkats may have to freeze a little while longer.

    Chuckle Emoji.
     
  19. IQuestion

    IQuestion New Member

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    RIVERSINTHEDESERT It doesn't matter where you post info like this! You are a Super Duper Sleuther more to come for 2012, 2013? Wonder if it was due to 1)non-filing 2)failed audit 3) URP (under reporter program) 4) Filed, but not paid 5) Defaulting on an existing payment plan 6) Or even worse...can there be worse? OH YEAH...withholding money out of an employee's paycheck (for example: Social Security, Medicare, Federal Taxes) and not forwarding it to the Feds. It takes a couple of years to get to this point...just sayin'.
    HOWEVER, sometimes people simply don't report their capital gains transactions correctly and it snow balls into a horrible situation....and they stick their head in the sand because it is so difficult to get help resolving their issues. (Yes, I CAN BE IMPARTIAL, even dismiss this as a normal IRS issue and not assume it means anything sinister.:blushing:) A certified correspondence arriving from that beloved agency is always disconcerting :noooo: and can elevate your blood pressure.
     
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    IQuestion New Member

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    DEXTER...You share knowledge, and life experiences with an amusing edge. I giggled when you wrote you have the IRS on speed dial. (Perhaps they have you on speed dial, too?) I am very familiar with the case you wrote about above....think he had a successful roofing company and an IRS agent had an appointment that afternoon with the wife/bookkeeper. The amount was pretty high (as I recall) two million+. So the wife killed her husband in the morning, thinking the debt would "go away." Absolute tragedy....every situation can be worked out...murdering an innocent spouse is NEVER AN OPTION!! Lots of people have tax problems, and they don't kill their spouses. (Hmmm, Lee County Sheriff's Dept in Florida, the FBI, Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept in Missouri, The ATF, The IRS.... The list of alphabet agencies keeps getting longer. I can think of two others that might be weighing in soon. But I'll let my fellow sleuths add to that list.)
    I have to admit the timing is odd...because these issues don't happen "over night."
    THE IRS: LIKE THE SIGN SAYS, IT IS ALL THEIRS
    https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/db/48/7a/db487a3beafd322c71eacbbe17e69f79.jpg

    Nite DEX... Good night fellow sleuths.
     
  21. No it's not

    No it's not that simple

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    Good find!

    1040 Tax period ending 12/31/13
    Date of Assessment 12/01/2014
    32,833.23 $

    -Nin
     

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