23 March 2010: Friend reports Josh says mine shaft best for hiding body

Discussion in 'Susan Cox Powell' started by PickieChickie, Mar 23, 2010.

  1. PickieChickie

    PickieChickie Former Member

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    Video - Josh Powell was obsessed with crime shows and tells friend a mine shaft is the best place to hide a body​


    Josh Powell's friend reports, via telephone, Josh said the following during a 2008 Christmas party: "Basically it would be deep and it would go straight down and for someone to find something down that would be literally impossible. I couldn't believe I was having this discussion with him about this type of thing and I just couldn't believe it."

    MORE AT ABC4 NEWS: (Video player is located in the top right corner of the screen): http://www.abc4.com/content/news/to...-for-Susan-Powell/4bqHjEihG0K1aYZpBxo0iQ.cspx
     
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  3. gwenabob

    gwenabob A nice girl with a disturbing hobby

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    I bet the police have known about this and that is why they have been searching that area and they don't want volunteers.
     
  4. fran

    fran Former Member

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    This makes me want to cry. Josh is probably laughing his head off at all the people and time being spent to look for Susan.

    Bless Susan and her family.

    :(
    fran
     
  5. Dr.Fessel

    Dr.Fessel New Member

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    Doesn't appear to me the cops want any help finding Susan and that is just fine with Mr. Cox. There are some good comments on the story already.


    In fact, Sheriff Park said individual searchers are already putting a strain on his resources. He said hardly a weekend goes by with a handful of tips coming in about suspicious mounds. "They've found a lot of interesting things, but nothing to do with Susan Powell." In many cases, he said people have found the remote grave of a family pet.

    Still, his deputies investigate every tip. Sheriff Park emphasized, "Volunteers are great. People out on their own are great. It's just becoming a continual drain on our resources."
    Chuck Cox added, "We need to let the police do the police work."
     
  6. Dr.Fessel

    Dr.Fessel New Member

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    Mr. Cox should be begging the state police to take over the investigation. This is nuts.
     
  7. passionflower

    passionflower Just 1 tip to find a killer

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    What exactly is with the Cox family?
    I would go insane if that was my daughter missing?
    and in a mine shaft? OMG!
    How many mines shafts in the area?
    How would one look for a body in a mine shaft?
    Here in PA mine shafts have allot of lime in them.
    Nothing would be left????
    Please find Susan!
     
  8. RubyRed

    RubyRed "Keep on Truckin"

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  9. PickieChickie

    PickieChickie Former Member

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    I am certain this friend reported what Josh told him to the police right away. This would explain all the search parties various people reported. For Mr. Cox to go out to the desert then say Susan's body couldn't be out there, especially when Josh told this friend "the best place to hide a body is straight down in a mine shaft" is amazing to me.

    If Josh disposed of Susan's body down a mine shaft, he would have had to have prior knowledge of it's location and would have had to find the perfect one to accomplish what he set out to do; make it impossible to find Susan's body.

    One has to wonder where he was all those times he didn't show up to pick up Susan. Perhaps he was out exploring to find just the perfect shaft.

    It would be interesting to know what sort of online research he was doing!
     
  10. Dr.Fessel

    Dr.Fessel New Member

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    I have no doubt the police will be out there harassing the searchers.

    Hey you have two wheels off the road parking like that, you are getting a ticket.

    Oh sticking that flag in the ground is littering,,,,,,,,,on and on and on.................

    Where is the outrage of the friends. Instead of going to the desert they should go stand in front of the police station and demand answers.
     
  11. mysticrose

    mysticrose The key to change... is to let go of fear

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    Well a mine shaft would be a good place to hide a body, Josh is right about that, and there are plenty mines out there. Some closed some not, which brings to mind Josh being seen buying a cutting torch. Where we ever able to confirm he bought one ? If he put Susan in a mine shaft he could have picked one that had been sealed, cut it open put her in and re welded it as to show it has not been disturbed ...
     
  12. mysticrose

    mysticrose The key to change... is to let go of fear

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    I am also a little shocked about them not wanting searchers out there. The sheriff doesnt want the liability ? Well I sure would hope if one of my loved ones came up missing I could find that kind of support ! If they don't want them there Paige Birgfield is still missing here in Grand Junction and I am sure we could line up some area's to search !
     
  13. RayO

    RayO New Member

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    Exactly, so any follow-up on the cutting torch lead? The Toole Co people mentioned something about looking mines in the Pony Express Trail area as part of their "thousands of hours" of searching. But there are really scant trees there - no "woods" there - ref Charlie's comment. How about mines up some of the nearby canyons, say in Utah Co, or further south along I-15?
     
  14. PickieChickie

    PickieChickie Former Member

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    Someone sent me a message stating there is no Utah State Police, that the FBI need to be called in. Why do I get the impression that certain people close to Susan Powell don't want to find her body?
     
  15. mysticrose

    mysticrose The key to change... is to let go of fear

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    Hi Ray ...Here is a site with listings for some mines in UT, The list is long and all by degrees, minutes and seconds, daunting task none the less I will keep looking for something more simpler ...

    http://www.trainweb.org/utahrails/mining/utmines.html

    I also will look into the cutting torch there was a lot of talk about it here on Susans thread, .....

    ETA: Here is a link to a map for the counties in UT to help with the list above:

    http://geology.com/county-map/utah.shtml
     
  16. PickieChickie

    PickieChickie Former Member

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    When the person who sold Josh the cutting torch gets tired of keeping quiet, they will probably call the media, either one of the local newspapers or TV stations, just like the fellow in the video has done.

    People who have vital information are getting TIRED of keeping it to themselves as asked to by the police because they don't see the police doing anything.

    I'm not saying the police aren't doing anything. It's just that people want answers NOW. It's been so long since Susan disappeared and these people who have interesting tidbits of information are going to start coming forward one by one.

    IMO
     
  17. PickieChickie

    PickieChickie Former Member

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    Josh could have taken the boys up to a woody area after he ditched the body in the middle of the night so when they woke up, they would describe an entirely different area. If he knew exactly where he was going to dump Susan's body, and the spot was easily accessible, it wouldn't have taken him long.

    I doubt Josh slept that night and drove somewhere to go think, unless he was really in WVC at 5:00 AM as has been suggested by someone who wanted $1000.00 for the information from the examiner.com reporter.
     
  18. grayjay

    grayjay Active Member

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    They can drop cameras down into deep shafts and stay safe. I won't think they can't find her in one of them until they say they've searched them all.

    I believe the professionals are being methodical and spending taxpayers money wisely on this case, and I'm very grateful that they are indeed not letting it go cold.

    Yes, those close to Susan Powell on the Powell side could reasonably be assumed to not want her body to be found. I think it's grossly unfair to think that's true of the others, though. This is a hurtful statement and drives some who care deeply away from this forum.

    You might be in the remote parts of Utah if you drive on a dirt road and learn that the towing charge when your car breaks down starts at over a thousand bucks. It's different there. I'm just sayin'.
     
  19. RayO

    RayO New Member

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    Thanks, that's great. Now we need a GIS guru to take the list and match it to a list of road coordinates (from Census data or ESRI files) and find which mines are fairly close to a road (say within 100 yards), and then at an altitude that would be accessible by the minivan in early December (say paved roads below 7000 ft?, unpaved roads below 6000 ft?). That would pare the list. So the searchers could use their GPS to find each of these and note if the entrance seal has been recently cut/re-sealed, look for trace evidence at the opening, etc. Sure would help to have any info from cell phone and credit card records.
     
  20. grayjay

    grayjay Active Member

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    It should be fairly easy for those familiar with the county, to eliminate the quads that don't make sense and find roads on the others.

    There are latitude and longitude conversion scripts on the web to translate DMS to decimal GPS. I snagged one and adapted it and I keep it handy. I can't share it, but it came from CSGNetwork.Com in 2006.
     
  21. mysticrose

    mysticrose The key to change... is to let go of fear

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    Not sure if this helps, maybe.

    Utah mining district areas,

    http://geology.utah.gov/online/m/m-70.pdf



    ETA: Abandoned Coal Mines in Utah

    http://geology.utah.gov/databases/umsh/index.html
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    ETA: more links:

    1912 Utah mining district 1 and 2,

    http://menotomymaps.com/map_img.asp?p=map_fdbdown.asp?62&mak=1912_Utah_mining_district

    http://menotomymaps.com/map_img.asp?p=map_fdbdown.asp?63&mak=1912_Utah_mining_district
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    Public records - State of UT Coal mine locations

    https://fs.ogm.utah.gov/PUB/MINES/Coal_Related/MAPS/pubrecmap.pdf
     

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