It's really obvious that a lot of folks are still quite certain that the Ramsey's were culpable in JB's demise. But, perhaps if we take a fresh look, we can also reconsider who our culprit(s) might be. For this purpose let's assume that the touch dna together with the original dna establishes a stranger suspect. If Codis is run automatically, weekly, and the dna has not come up with a match, it would seem that our perp is: 1. Dead 2. Never convicted of a codis offense (abt 15 years to date) Strangely, this murder did not seem (to me) like that of a first time offender, and thus we might expect to see other sadistic child offenses by the same perp. It also seems logical that you would expect a felony conviction of some sort over a 15 year period. Pedophiles can rarely contain themselves. Leaving the Ramseys out of this particular debate and based on a stranger suspect who's dead that we have speculated about, and would LE have their DNA? Santa Helgoth ?? Others that have wafted in and out of discussions. Does LE have DNA on these folks? Fleet White Chris Wolf Gary Oliva The fellow with the Barbie Dolls (sorry) The Susan Chase incident? Pugh Family & Associates (daughter, friends, son-in-law, Mervin)?? I guess the point here is that if the DNA is solid, it changes (or could refocus) our field of vision, so to speak. The killer was brazen, excessively cruel, and killed in a unique & nightmarish way. The home invasion of another local child within days or weeks?? LE dismissed summarily, but accurately?