Discussion in 'JonBenet Ramsey' started by Barbara, Aug 20, 2004.
Thank you RickAMorti1
IOW he draws absolutely no conclusion...ok, now I know another book that I won't buy.
I can wait until my library has it instead.
True, Lee draws no conclusions, so I won't buy his book either, but here's how I interpret this sentence...
Only one or two people (John and Patsy Ramsey) really know the facts and there is a strong probability that these individuals will never step forward and say what happened during the cold and dark hours after Christmas 1996. I find this very sad."
(But I believe three people know the facts: John, Patsy and Burke.)
Burke Ramsey and Doug Stine may know more about what really happened than do John and Patsy Ramsey.
Lee will go into detail the crime scene and injuries to JonBenet which he has yet to discuss publicly...I'll buy the book.
Seems Dr. Lee thinks the Ramseys are involved
I wonder if Lin is reading it.
Lee doesn't ask all the questions he should.
Is the book out already? I'm calling B&N today to order mine.
The book is out.
On FFJ, Bob C has been kind enough to give us the inside scoop on the book and Dr. Lee's opinions as he reads the book. I highly recommend it! Very interesting and will make you anxious to read it all for yourself. You'll also be that much more informed when Dr. Lee starts promoting the book all over TV
Wow. No one on the forums must have known that this was in the works? I will definitely be buying it...this week if possible.
You are so right Brother , there is so much more than just a few words about her death and the BPD MISTAKES AND THE LACK OF EDIVENCE...
YOU MAKE A VERY GOOD POINT ...
I'm not registered at FFJ so I can't read there. And I won't have my book til later in the week or so. I did buy the Globe and it makes it seem that Dr. Lee was brought in by Alex Hunter and that Lee still admires him. Is there anything else he says about that?
I'm just rejoicing about this news, I really am. Finally a step closer to a trial.
O.K. knock off all the sucking up. :waitasec:
You don't have to be registered at FFJ to read.
Lee's book appears to contain many glaring inaccuracies. Imagine if he were an expert witness - he'd be torn to shreds in the witness box! I'm afraid I cannot take anyone seriously if they cannot get their basics facts correct - regardless of who they are. I accept that anyone can make mistakes and that typos can be missed, but what I've read so far doesn't impress me one jot. If I can see obvious inaccuracies in Lee's account of what I DO know, I'd have little faith in his accounts of what I DIDN'T know. I agree that this doesn't necessaily mean that his overall conclusions are incorrect, but it certainly gives me a harder time accepting them.
I read one of his other books last week and there was a chapter on the Ramsey case in that too - a shorter one. Even that contained inaccuracies. I expect more from someone of his supposed "standing".
I agree. I haven't been impressed by Henry Lee since he said the JonBenet murder is not a DNA case, when it obviously is a DNA case.
I'll buy his book though, just in case he mentions something we don't know.
Lee's factual transaltions leave less to be desired like JAR and Melinda being in Boulder Christmas morning and this reminds me of John Walsh's reverberating claim Jonbewnet was cut down. I do however agree with his end conclusion that the murder was staged to cover a horroific domestic accident or as he mentions horseplay that was out of hand.
Was the accident so embarrassing the scheme was concocted or was it just to ordinary for Patsy to have her daughter die in an accident? Seems she came up with the grandiose kidnapping to give JonBenet the fame in death she desperately tried to give her in lfe.
What type of accident could be so embarrasing or what type of horseplay would have lead to a head bashing? Did John get a new golf club for Christmas? Is that a gift an ordinary golfer might recieve?
I agree,as well, that the crime was not as it appeared,however I do not believe the Ramseys were involved. There seems to be elements of staging involved, staging to cover up an unfortunate accident . I have often wondered about the material in her hair, wondered if someone hadn't fashioned a tiarra of sorts for a holiday theme, something that we don't know,but something to consider. There was an active child porn trading group in Boulder as elsewhere,one that has existed since the indroduction of the computer age,where a snap of a camera can make a quick buck for a photographer,one where his pics can go around the world in a proverbial blink of an eye. After her death one only needed to click into a chat room to discover the amount of pedophiles drawn to her ,discussing her as if she were a commodity while sharing pics and hoping to locate more erotic ones.
IMO there is a chance that an ordinary felon, was after a quick buck,and it went all too wrong. I believe ,as well, that he is well connected to one of the families we have discussed. (don't know which one,but there are many who have at least one character in their midst that could be culpable of this kind of thing) The BPD was asleep on this angle. IMO
If it was an intruder, known or unknown to the Ramseys, why would the Ramseys be lying their heads off, refusing to fully cooperate with investigators, and carrying out such an extensive coverup? It's obvious there was no intruder because the Ramseys wouldn't be shielding an intruder who murdered their daughter.
The evidence and the Ramseys' behaviors point to an involved family member who killed JonBenet or who knows who killed JonBenet.
Their lying is your perspective and the perspective of those that believe they are guilty. From my perspective I don't see lying or coverup I see parents that do not have answers simply because they don't know who killed their child. I see parents who were hoping the murderer would be found and instead found themselves as the focus of a very misguided investigation. I see frustration , lack of confidence and lost hope with the people they trusted would work for their family in finding this murderer.
If you read the comments by any and all of the detectives ,forensic people, reporters,etc. you will find such inaccuracies as to wonder if they are lying,however close they were bound to this investigation they clearly fail to recall each and every detail. (and yeah I hate it when they write books with such things in them as size 7 panties, and the senior White's being at a party ..and on..an on)
Enough evidence for "obstruction of justice" - why didn't Hunter do so?
Counseled Hunter AGAINST handing down an indictment - did the GJ indict?