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Discussion in 'Texas Killing Fields and Mysteries Along I-45' started by :+:MrTT:+:, Nov 20, 2011.

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    :+:MrTT:+: Cold Case Files

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    New Mexico

    Published on Nov 18, 2011 by AssociatedPress

    Pay particular attention at 45 seconds.

    I found it interesting about how he got a victim.
    Simply walked up to her called her by name and said. "Your under arrest"
    and put cuffs on her and took her somewhere.

    Cynthia Jaramillo, a victim in a notorious New Mexico sex torture case, opened up about her kidnapping by David Parker Ray Friday, and made a plea to the public to help find other missing women. (Nov. 18)[​IMG]


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=7kIcEhmootU
     
  2. JeannieC

    JeannieC New Member

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    I don't get the connection. Was Cynthia Jaramillo abducted from Texas? Was the perp taking victims to Texas?
    Thanks
     
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    I don't know where she was from.
    Have not researched the story.
    But at 45 seconds when they showed that occult alter.
    With the skull.
    Made me wonder about the skulls found in Texas.
    The ones that showed signs of being severed/cut from the body
    and not detached because of elements of the environment.

    The one found in the storage unit especially.
    Found in a cauldron or with one and books on the occult.
    I have wondered what became of that person.
    The person who rented it and for whom if anyone.
    And the total investigation of it back then.

    And with New Mexico being next-door.
    Had me wonder if any occult practices involving human sacrifice
    Or trying to cast spells with the bones/skulls was taking place in Texas.

    Just thinking outside the box.
     
  4. JeannieC

    JeannieC New Member

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    Henry Lucas talked about being involved with Satanic rituals in Texas. Many of his confessions were false but some were not. It is possible that part of what he said was true and he could have been involved with the skulls found in the area.
     
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    JeannieC New Member

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    Read the thread on Henry Lucas and Otis Toole. Very hard and sickening read. These two could easily make someone "think" about the occult when actually it was something else.
     
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    bessie Administrator Staff Member Administrator Moderator

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    I copied MrTT's question from another thread.

    There were the cult killings in Matamoros near the US/Mexican border in the late 1980's. Very scary. I couldn't sleep for days when the body of Mark Kilroy was found. I still shudder every time I hear the word "Matamoros".

    [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolfo_Constanzo"]Adolfo Constanzo - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

    On March 13, 1989, Kilroy and his Lambda Chi Alpha fraternity brothers traveled from South Padre Island to Matamoros, Mexico. The following day, Kilroy's fraternity brothers notified Brownsville law enforcement authorities that he had disappeared the previous evening. Authorities on both sides of the border began a massive search for Kilroy without success.[2]
    The case opened up when a Mexican national named Serafin Hernandez went through a police checkpoint without slowing down. Authorities gave chase and Mr. Hernandez led investigators to a remote homestead known as Rancho Santa Elena. Authorities arrested Serafin and four other men including the ranch's caretaker after approximately 250 lbs of Marijuana was found in Serafin's car. While interrogating Hernandez, authorities learned that Kilroy and several others had been murdered and their bodies buried at the ranch.[2]
    On April 11, 1989, investigators discovered the mutilated body of Kilroy and 14 other victims in shallow graves at the ranch. All the victims had been sacrificed by [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolfo_de_Jesus_Constanzo"]Adolfo Constanzo - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame] and [ame]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sara_Maria_Aldrete[/ame], leaders of a cult which combined Palo Mayombe, Santeria, and Mexican Brujeria practices and utilized human sacrifice to feed their spirits and protects the members of the cult.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_J._Kilroy
     
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    :+:MrTT:+: Cold Case Files

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    forget the clues. You just brought it right out.
    Thanks for posting this information.
    Its just what i was looking for.

    I am going to keep an eye upon
    Victoria in Texas.
    And see if any LEO makes a connection with cases/missing in New Mexico and or Texas.

    But that mass grave that's mentioned in your article.
    At some remote location. There has to be another one somewhere
    along the I-45 . There are way to many missing over the years. Something 400 plus since 1950 I believe i read and only 100 or so UIDs.

    A mass grave along that i45 corridor.
    From Houston to Galveston.
    But I would say nearer to Galveston then up North.
    Something resembling the remote farm area that was mentioned in the article.

    Looks as if 59 will take you straight into Houston from
    Victoria.

    There was only one I could find missing and listed on namus from Victoria?
    So I am wondering if they found items similar in New-Mexico
    and are looking to make a connection between the two. Or if remains were discovered at sometime in Victoria and there trying to make a connection that way?
    Though just speculating on everything.
     
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    And we may be looking for a couple of Demons such as these two.
    Responsible for the taking of two at times perhaps.
    Though just making assumptions and speculating.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBd5EPrQxLQ"]American Occult- The Ripper Crew - YouTube[/ame]

    And someone like Ed Gein perhaps from the early day cases.
    Back in the 50s 60s etc There had to be some really remote areas
    where persons lived without neighbors near by for miles perhaps.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrqzkd_0sEI&feature=related"]Ed Gein Part 1 of 6 - YouTube[/ame]






     
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    ikoihil Verified User

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    Yes, 59 runs through Houston, and goes to Victoria.

    Don't count on just one website as your resource. Some of these women went missing and either their families didn't know the resources available to them for posting on Namus or the Doe Network, or it might have been pre-internet time...
     
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    I read the book on Adolfo Constanzo, man I couldn't sleep for days. Spooked the crap out of me!
     
  12. JeannieC

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    Otis Toole claimed to be involved in the occult. He killed in Texas and Fla so he probably left a trail of bodies from Fla to Texas and other states. He decapitated his victims in some case but it doesn't seem like he did in all cases. I think he probably did all his victims when he was alone and not with Lucas. That's just a guess on my part but looking into his whereabouts could lead to more victims.

    He murdered and decapitated Adam Walsh. He also abducted him from a mall. I wonder if some of our victims who are still missing from malls could be his victims.

    He murdered both males and females so it might be worth looking at both as far as missing.
     

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