If discussion of menstruation disturbs you please look no further [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_-woVqTnVQ[/ame] [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1cAYWi9E_0&feature=PlayList&p=007FE271907E08E0&index=0&playnext=1[/ame] An important part of the RDI evidence is that JBR hymen was eroded, but not actually torn. It was "worn" suggesting chronic injury, and, of course, JR is the primary culprit. The possibility that perhaps BR or another same age playmate might have done this doesn't seem to register much credibility even though it cannot be logically ruled out. This worn hymen may have NOTHING TO DO with her murder. I understand that "masturbation" was "ruled out" but I'm somewhat skeptical. How do you know that JB did not watch her mother PR or another woman or older girl talk about using douches or tampons? I know that around menarche around as early as 8, if even younger, JB may have been exposed to older girls either expecting their first period or using tampons or douches. It seems within the range of plausibility that JB heard from say an 8 y/o who heard from her older sister who was having her first period on how to use a tampon or douche, and JB decided to try it herself, and perhaps tried it a couple of times and hence, a worn, but not broken or ruptured, hymen. She may not have had or found real tampons too big so she improvised by practicing with a friend something slender. Can we say with any confidence what her diameter of her hymen should have been had no "contact" with her hymen occurred? Just how many mm of hymenal tissue was eroded and need to be accounted for? I vaguely recall girls talking about menstruating when I was in fourth grade or around 8-9. She and her girl friend found her older sister's box of juvenile just for menache age girl slim tampons, along with instructions on how to insert them, and decided to follow suit. There's the issue of JB playing doctor with any of her peers. As a girl how old you were when you first learned of menstruation? Did you ever practice putting on a tampon prior to your first period? How do we know that JB had long nails, so when she self inserted her own finger into her own vagina, her nails were long enough to touch her own hymen? There's no woman ever that as a little girl inserted her own finger into her own vagina OR inserted an object into her vagina? What about girls exploring other girls parts? What about an itchy vagina? What if JB had an itchy vagina and decided to scratch it by using some object to relieve the itching? Or use some kind of applicator to deliver anti-itch cream? WHen my back is itchy and I can't reach it, I use an object like a stick to scratch it. RDI could be true, but this worn hymen has nothing to do with anything any R's did. IDI could also be true, and someone else eroded her hymen.