A twister?

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  1. Ames

    Ames New Member

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    11 LOU SMIT: So just one more area. Everybody
    12 has heard about -- I can't say that. What have you
    13 heard about a paint tray?
    14 JOHN RAMSEY: Just what I read, or tried
    15 not to read. But can't help but hear the media
    16 that tell us a broken paintbrush that was used as
    17 part of the -- you see, I found JonBenet. I never
    18 saw a cord or that sort of thing. I thought I saw
    19 a cord, but I didn't focus on it or realize there
    20 was anything in the way of a twister, which
    21 apparently it was.
    22 It apparently was a paintbrush. And that's based
    23 on what I heard in the media. That's my
    24 impression. That's all I really heard.

    "I never saw a cord or that sort of thing. I thought I saw a cord, but I didn't focus on it or realize there was anything in the way of a twister, which apparently it was.":waitasec:

    DUHHHHHH JOHN...which was it? You NEVER saw it, or you THOUGHT you saw it? (rolling eyes)

    And ANOTHER thing...How in the WORLD would he know a slang term used for a garotte. I think of ....um...maybe a tornado, a board game...or when I am hungry, the Twister on the KFC menu (a chicken wrap)...but, NOT a garotte. Your average person would have never referred to the garotte as a twister. Why didn't he just say..."the rope around her neck", for example. Regardless of if he saw it or not...he still referred to it as "a twister", sounds like someone that knows a little about garottes...uh...I MEAN twisters.
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  3. angelwngs

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    Amazing inconsistancy! The LE and media should have screamed this one from the rooftops! It is as bad as PR saying she just read the beginning of the ransom note yet in the 911 call she is recorded as saying SBTC Victory is 'who took responsibility for writing the note.
     
  4. Ames

    Ames New Member

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    I know! How many people in these United States, know that a garotte is called a twister? I sure didn't know it, until I read John's interview, and now I am educated on the slang term for a garotte. And he said it like it was common knowledge.
     
  5. angelwngs

    angelwngs New Member

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    It rolled of his....um...uh...humm...uh---lips way too easily!

    The exact same way that lynching, garrotte and guillotine have done so many times before in his discussions or writings about this case.
     
  6. Rhett

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    I didn't know it was called a twister. Is that sexual terminology?
     
  7. Ames

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    I have no idea, but that's a good question.

    I just looked it up on Webster's online dictionary and this is what I found. In Spanish, a twister is one of the words used for Garotte. So, John knows enough about Garottes to know the SPANISH name for it? Well, alrighty then.

    Spanish

    garrote (bludgeon, club, dancer, defect, garotte, garrote, kink, springer, truncheon, twister), dar garrote a (garotte, garrote), agarrotar (garotte, garrote, squeeze tight). (various references)
     
  8. angelwngs

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    :clap:
    And he apparently knows enough Spanish to know the word 'twister'! That's pretty wild that he would know that since he said that the stun gun video that LE found in their house wouldn't have meant anything to them since it was in Spanish and they would have no idea what it was saying. Humm... Very Interesting Find here, Ames! :clap:
     
  9. Ames

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    Yep, I know. According to him, he couldn't speak or understand Spanish.
    Thanks for the applause!!!
     
  10. SleuthyGal

    SleuthyGal Former Member

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    Until this case I never even heard of a 'garrote.' Twister is a new one for me (learn something new everyday).
     
  11. DeeDee249

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    Interesting...wasn't there a video or manual for a stun gun in Spanish found in the R home? I believe there was, and JR admitted as much, but said they couldn't have used it because they didn't speak Spanish.

    I never heard the term "twister" used for garrote or any strangulation device. When I hear that word, I think of a tornado or the game "Twister".

    But then, he should know...
     
  12. angelwngs

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    Yes, DeeDee. I mentioned the instructional video about how to use a stun gun in post #7 above. JR got it in Fla. when he and PR were walking/shopping and he slipped into a shop that sold security items as he was interested in 'checking them out' for Access G, I believe he said. He said the salesperson handed him the video as they were leaving and he didn't even realize what it was about. He said he never even looked at it and couldn't have understood it if he had as he later found out it was in Spanish.
     
  13. Rhett

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    But what I meant was it could go along with the pedophile group theories. Groups have slang lanuage that they use. If "twister" is what is used in their group then it could give credence to that theory. Or, if John by himself is involved with these pedophile groups, kiddie porn, etc., it may be why he knows the use of that word in that manner.
     
  14. azwriter

    azwriter Sister Mary Wanna

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    And, didn't John identify the garrot as being "professional"
    How does this man know what a professional killing instrument looks like? Or that a slang term for the garrot is Twister.
    To me the word Twister sounds like a explaination of what was done with the garrot. Why didn't he call it a "choker?"
    jmo
     
  15. angelwngs

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    Probably because Patsy told him that a 'choker' was a diamond necklace from Tiffany that he must buy her for Christmas...
     
  16. SuperDave

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    I have a brother you'd get along with swimmingly.
     
  17. Ames

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    ROTFLMAO!!!

    :woohoo:GOOD ONE!
     
  18. Ames

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    22 It apparently was a paintbrush. And that's based
    23 on what I heard in the media. That's my
    24 impression. That's all I really heard.

    He makes good and dam* sure that Lou Smit KNOWS that he HEARD that it was a paintbrush, but he wasn't SURE....but, that is just what he HEARD in the media. He knows good and well that it was a paintbrush, and he didn't have to hear it from the media.
     
  19. tapu

    tapu Pretty scary.

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    That dictionary entry does NOT mean that "twister" is a Spanish word; rather, the word "garrote" comes from Spanish. "Twister" is American (English) Slang for it.
     
  20. Ames

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    I think that you are wrong...



    Modern Translations: Garrotte

    Language Translations for "garrotte"; alternative meanings/domain in parentheses.Albanian

    qafore metalike, mbytje (choke, glut, stifling, strangulation, submergence, submersion, suffocation, thuggee, thuggery, wreck, wrecking), ekzekutim me mbytje. (various references)
    Arabic [​IMG]

    ‏الإعدام بالمخنق. (various references)
    Bulgarian [​IMG]

    удушване на човек, удушвам, удушавам с гарота, смърт чрез удушване чрез гарота, гарота. (various references)
    French

    garrot (garrot), faire périr par le garrot, cordelette, étrangler. (various references)
    German

    garrotte. (various references)
    Greek [​IMG]

    στραγγαλισμόσ (strangulation), στραγγαλίζω (choke, scrag, strangle, strangulate, throttle). (various references)
    Hungarian

    megfojtás (choke, choking, garotte, smothering, strangling, strangulation), kivégzés nyakszorító vassal (garotte), csavarófa (garotte, garrote). (various references)
    Italian

    garrotta (garotte), strangolare con la garrotta (garotte). (various references)
    Manx

    toghtey (choke, choking, clog, clogging, dyspnoea, foul, jugulate; strangling, strangle, strangulation, throttle, throttling), garrotte. (various references)
    Pig Latin

    arrottegay.(various references)
    Portuguese

    guarnecer com soldados, garrotear (garotte), garrote (defect, Esmarch tourniquet, garotte, kink, tie, top of shoulder, tourniquet, withers), estrangular (choke, emote, garotte, mug, quell, scrag, strangle, strangulate, suffocate, suppress, throttle), esganar (garotte, strangle, throttle), assalto (assault, attack, blow, bout, break in, burglary, flaw, garotte, mugging, onfall, onset, push, raid, robbery, rush, shock). (various references)
    Romanian

    strangula (Burke (FROM AMES: NOW THATS A STRANGE SLANG TERM!), choke, strangle, throttle). (various references)
    Russian [​IMG]

    удушение с целью грабежа, казнь гарротой, гаррота. (various references)
    Serbo-Croatian

    garota (garrote). (various references)
    Spanish

    garrote (bludgeon, club, dancer, defect, garotte, garrote, kink, springer, truncheon, twister), dar garrote a (garotte, garrote), agarrotar (garotte, garrote, squeeze tight). (various references)
    Swedish

    strypa (choke, scrag, strangle, strangulate, throttle). (various references)
    Turkish

    boğazını sıkarak öldürmek (garrote), boğazını sıkarak öldürme (garrote), boğarak idam etmek (garotte, garrote), boğarak idam (garotte, garrote). (various references)
    Ukranian [​IMG]

    страчувати за допомогою гаротти (garotte), гаррота (garotte), задушення з метою пограбування (garotte), задушити з метою пограбування (garotte). (various references)
    Vietnamese [​IMG]

    hình phạt thắt cổ (garotte). (various references)​

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    And the words in parentheses are slang for the language out beside of it, not the ENGLISH (American) slang for garotte. If that was true of the words for Spanish...then it would also mean that dyspnoea and Esmarch tourniquet are also American slang terms for Garotte, too. Along with all of those other words, in the other languages, in parentheses.

    Doesn't matter anyway...my whole point is that John knew enough about Garottes to know that the slang word for it was twister, whether is be the slang word for garotte in America, Spain, Russia or Mars.
     
  21. tapu

    tapu Pretty scary.

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    :confused:


    You're thinking all these words are Spanish??

    bludgeon, club, dancer, defect, garotte, garrote, kink, springer, truncheon


    (I only point it out because people had picked up the Spanish claim and were drawing conclusions about Ramsey's knowledge of Spanish from his use of "twister.")
     

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