VERDICT WATCH Abby & Libby - The Delphi Murders - Richard Allen Arrested - #213

[Inthedetails]

I'm a bit confused. Is the jury still deliberating today or is court adjourned until tomorrow?

They are deliberating now.

jmo

 

[IzzyBlanche]

They are deliberating now.

jmo

Thank you.

 

[Davemac1]

After a quick google search, there was a double homicide that occured in Connecticut. The jury came back in about 6 minutes with a guilty verdict.

Google?

Can't be true!

 

[Inthedetails]

I am curious if the jury will ask questions, make any requests. I'm thinking they might want to review some videos?

jmo

 

[Warwick7]

She had the wits about her to recognize the man meant trouble.

She was brave and started a video.

She looked for a path for them to get away.

She tried to unlock her phone without RA's notice.

She dropped clothes in the creek on purpose. (I'd like to think)

She hid her cell in her shoe.

She tried to run.......

She said someday she is going to help police solve crimes, that’s exactly what she DID.

And these are the only things we know about. There could more.

 

[INfisherman]

2 seconds - 2 seconds of a voice only.

It isn't really enough to analyse or recognise and especially if it has been technically or electronically enhanced.

In the 5 years it circulated not one person stepped forward to a point a finger at anyone.

JMO MOO JMT

I’ve been pointing at you for 2 hours.

 

[Momofthreeboys]

Apologies if I missed this, but the prosecution stated it found Allen’s car and Carhartt jacket. That jacket was never shown in court, correct?

Those coats are a dime a dozen in the Midwest. I have boys/men and they all have several of that style some name brand Carhart and some other brands. Black, tan/khaki and blue. For me that is not significant and less so since prosecution never said anything other than they found RA's blue one. He also claimed to have a black version if I recall.

 

[Mauig’ma]

Google?

Can't be true!

Now that’s awful fast imo. Must have had a lot of evidence to seal the deal that fast imo

 

[steeltowngirl]

I’m sorry to be replying so late to this, but I was behind and wanted to read remaining posts to make sure no one else has already addressed this.

Isn’t the parcel outlined here the one that was owned at the time of the murders by Ron Logan? It even says his son’s name on the parcel ID.

Sorry about that, use the search on beacon to this parcel.

 

[Justice101]

I looked it up and the average deliberation time for a jury in a murder trial is 2 hours.

 

[joe jones]

The REAL BG delivered the girls to BW who swooped them away to a creepy group that used LGs phone.
Then that group did sacrificial things, returned the girls to BW who covered the CS with sticks and kept several as keepsakes in his garage

I mean, it's obvious.

If this scenario seems ridiculous, that's because it is.

It didn't happen, but if we keep spinning it, surely this jury will see it.(Total sarcasm)

I believe that the jury will see through all of this and find RA guilty.

JMO

I think the BW theory is one that LE should have investigated, what RA is accused of doing is equally implausible and far more difficult than BW taking them on a road to his home
RA we are to believe took 2 girls down a steep embankment, they all 3 had to have been walking unhindered ie not tied up in any way as to get down the hill would be difficult, he had to get both girls to the same spot to cross the river, the stàtes theory is he has a gun, but in going down the hill it would have been difficult to have it pointed right at the girls at all times, once down the hill he had to get them to wade across the stream and up very muddy steep embankment the other side, all in broad daylight, out in the open, and with no idea how many people were out on the trails that afternoon, still in broad daylight (with the possibility anybody could have been hiking or walking in the area, or the landowner walking on his land) he had to get them both to take clothes off, AW testimony wasn't sure if she took off bras and vest but she took off everything below the waist, he then had to put gun in pocket or somewhere else, then get hold of one girl fatally wound her then do the same to the other in broad daylight, he then redressed one victim, and then in broad daylight left the scene on foot had to walk out onto a busy road to get to his car, he had to have been soaking wet from river and i expect he had blood on him, LG testimony revealed was able to assert herself and would stand up for herself, but nobody heard anything that day, RA testimony was he was a fragile egg, seems to be totally reliant on his wife, is small for a man, and his personality IMO doesn't feel as dominant where he could control two girls, even if at gunpoint, and then when he put gun away to get knife, he could have just shot them, two shots in quick succession may not have caused alarm especially with testimony that hunting happened at the crime scene, but they were not shot and he then proceeded to spend more time at scene where he could have been discovered
So all that versus someone taking them into his house (I'm not saying I think BW did it, I am just opining on the theories of what BW would have to have done versus the states theory of what RA has to do

 

[Peppery]

I predict a guilty verdict by 4pm Saturday.

 

[Mauig’ma]

I looked it up and the average deliberation time for a jury in a murder trial is 2 hours.

Thank you. That’s good to know

 

[Justice101]

I think the BW theory is one that LE should have investigated, what RA is accused of doing is equally implausible and far more difficult than BW taking them on a road to his home
RA we are to believe took 2 girls down a steep embankment, they all 3 had to have been walking unhindered ie not tied up in any way as to get down the hill would be difficult, he had to get both girls to the same spot to cross the river, the stàtes theory is he has a gun, but in going down the hill it would have been difficult to have it pointed right at the girls at all times, once down the hill he had to get them to wade across the stream and up very muddy steep embankment the other side, all in broad daylight, out in the open, and with no idea how many people were out on the trails that afternoon, still in broad daylight (with the possibility anybody could have been hiking or walking in the area, or the landowner walking on his land) he had to get them both to take clothes off, AW testimony wasn't sure if she took off bras and vest but she took off everything below the waist, he then had to put gun in pocket or somewhere else, then get hold off one girl fatally wound her then so the same too other, in broad daylight, he then redressed one victim, and then in broad daylight left the scene on foot had to walk out onto a busy road to get to his car, he had to have been soaking wet from river and i expect he had blood on him, LG testimony revealed was able to assert herself and would stand up for herself, but nobody heard anything that day, RA testimony was he was a fragile egg, seems to be totally reliant on his wife, is small for a man, and his personality IMO doesn't feel as dominant where he could control two
girls, even if at gunpoint, and then when he put gun away to get knife, he could have just shot them, two shots in quick succession may not have caused alarm especially with testimony that hunting happened at the crime scene, but they were not shot and he then proceeded to spend more time at scene where he could have been discovered
So all that versus someone taking them into his house (I'm not saying I think BW did it, I am just opining on the theories of what BW would have to have done versus the states theory of what RA has to do

meh, I don't agree.

Girls presumably facing forward with a man behind you with a gun that you can hear but not really see... he did this.

 

[Deleted member 296739]

They are deliberating now.

jmo

Thanks- I was confused too

 

[Momofthreeboys]

Defense still hasn't ( can't) take RA OFF the bridge and ordering 2 young teenagers DTH.

All they are doing is dissing on the Prosecuting team, Dissing on the witnesses.

They have yet to remove RA and Prove he was somewhere else.

JMO

Not their job to prove his innocent at all. It is not their job to get RA off the bridge's first platform. It is their job to point out potential flaws in the prosecution case. Like it or not it is the state's responsibility to prove this case beyond a reasonable doubt. So now we wait and see what the jury does with what they have heard and seen.

 

[Inthedetails]

Those coats are a dime a dozen in the Midwest. I have boys/men and they all have several of that style some name brand Carhart and some other brands. Black, tan/khaki and blue. For me that is not significant and less so since prosecution never said anything other than they found RA's blue one. He also claimed to have a black version if I recall.

It's in the jury's hands now. Doesn't really matter what any of us think about the jacket anymore, tbh.

jmo

 

[steeltowngirl]

7 years and 9 months later
We have a thread title
VERDICT WATCH

I’m here for it.

 

[Gigiky]

I think the BW theory is one that LE should have investigated, what RA is accused of doing is equally implausible and far more difficult than BW taking them on a road to his home
RA we are to believe took 2 girls down a steep embankment, they all 3 had to have been walking unhindered ie not tied up in any way as to get down the hill would be difficult, he had to get both girls to the same spot to cross the river, the stàtes theory is he has a gun, but in going down the hill it would have been difficult to have it pointed right at the girls at all times, once down the hill he had to get them to wade across the stream and up very muddy steep embankment the other side, all in broad daylight, out in the open, and with no idea how many people were out on the trails that afternoon, still in broad daylight (with the possibility anybody could have been hiking or walking in the area, or the landowner walking on his land) he had to get them both to take clothes off, AW testimony wasn't sure if she took off bras and vest but she took off everything below the waist, he then had to put gun in pocket or somewhere else, then get hold of one girl fatally wound her then do the same to the other in broad daylight, he then redressed one victim, and then in broad daylight left the scene on foot had to walk out onto a busy road to get to his car, he had to have been soaking wet from river and i expect he had blood on him, LG testimony revealed was able to assert herself and would stand up for herself, but nobody heard anything that day, RA testimony was he was a fragile egg, seems to be totally reliant on his wife, is small for a man, and his personality IMO doesn't feel as dominant where he could control two girls, even if at gunpoint, and then when he put gun away to get knife, he could have just shot them, two shots in quick succession may not have caused alarm especially with testimony that hunting happened at the crime scene, but they were not shot and he then proceeded to spend more time at scene where he could have been discovered
So all that versus someone taking them into his house (I'm not saying I think BW did it, I am just opining on the theories of what BW would have to have done versus the states theory of what RA has to do

I agree!!!!!!

 

[jepop]

I think the BW theory is one that LE should have investigated, what RA is accused of doing is equally implausible and far more difficult than BW taking them on a road to his home
RA we are to believe took 2 girls down a steep embankment, they all 3 had to have been walking unhindered ie not tied up in any way as to get down the hill would be difficult, he had to get both girls to the same spot to cross the river, the stàtes theory is he has a gun, but in going down the hill it would have been difficult to have it pointed right at the girls at all times, once down the hill he had to get them to wade across the stream and up very muddy steep embankment the other side, all in broad daylight, out in the open, and with no idea how many people were out on the trails that afternoon, still in broad daylight (with the possibility anybody could have been hiking or walking in the area, or the landowner walking on his land) he had to get them both to take clothes off, AW testimony wasn't sure if she took off bras and vest but she took off everything below the waist, he then had to put gun in pocket or somewhere else, then get hold of one girl fatally wound her then do the same to the other in broad daylight, he then redressed one victim, and then in broad daylight left the scene on foot had to walk out onto a busy road to get to his car, he had to have been soaking wet from river and i expect he had blood on him, LG testimony revealed was able to assert herself and would stand up for herself, but nobody heard anything that day, RA testimony was he was a fragile egg, seems to be totally reliant on his wife, is small for a man, and his personality IMO doesn't feel as dominant where he could control two
girls, even if at gunpoint, and then when he put gun away to get knife, he could have just shot them, two shots in quick succession may not have caused alarm especially with testimony that hunting happened at the crime scene, but they were not shot and he then proceeded to spend more time at scene where he could have been discovered
So all that versus someone taking them into his house (I'm not saying I think BW did it, I am just opining on the theories of what BW would have to have done versus the states theory of what RA has to do

BW was investigated, I believe by none other than the FBI. The full works. Searches, interviews. Nothing doing. It was in testimony the last few days and you can google all the info too to find msm reporting on this fact . Moo.