VERDICT WATCH Abby & Libby - The Delphi Murders - Richard Allen Arrested - #213

[Davemac1]

I've read elsewhere that there is a theory that the bodies were removed and returned to the scene
When a child goes missing it conjurs far more emotion than when an adult does. The lack of ability to fend for them self for one. The fear of leaving them alone in woods another. I would bet many people stayed in and around the trails the whole night on the 13th into the 14th.

Why and how on earth would the perpetrator be able to remove the bodies and return them when nobody is looking.'? My first reaction would be ' it's two young kids. The place will be swarming.'
in the history of homicide. Has that ever happened ever!?!
It's absolutely preposterous!

 

[MassGuy]

Yes! Most of these defense theories of the case would require me to completely ignore common sense in order to make these leaps.

If I'd never followed a case before, knew nothing about how real life works, and my only source of information was tv and movies, then maybe I could see it.

 

[KentuckyMama]

I am SO ready for this to be over. Either way at this point. So many dead horses viciously beaten all over the internet. I think this will all come down to the basic facts and common sense for the jurors. The rest has all been just to get knickers knotted. Its been very effective. However, its petty. And desperate. We all want the same thing. The person who did this to these girls to be locked away forever. My heart is sad for the family of these girls. I hope they are able to feel some peace soon.

 

[Spartygirl]

Yes, I don't disagree with you just think it would have been better if the state had cleared it up is all. But if wishes were fishes

Hopefully they did this morning in their closing arguments.

 

[RemarkableYou]

Maybe an ant or a tiny spider crawled in there and then decamped.

LOL!

 

[ClearAhead]

10:34 a.m. Closing Statements Begin.​

Before court begins, News 8’s Kyla Russell reports that defense attorney Andrew Baldwin writes “Rick” on a coffee cup and gives it to Allen. Normally Allen gets a coffee from the courthouse but today Baldwin has purchased one from a local shop.

At 8:47 a.m. Allen enters the room. Russell reports that he has a regular, large sized bible today and not the typical Gideon style bible he’s had in the past. He is heard saying he loves the coffee. He shows defense attorney Jennifer Auger a verse in his bible.

Prosecutor Stacey Diener is seen hugging the Germain and Williams family members. Abby’s mother is crying and being comforted by family.

At 9:04 a.m. Judge Gull enters the court room. The jury enters at 9:07. Court is in session.

Delphi Murders trial: Day 18 live blog

Delphi Murders trial continues with closing arguments from both prosecution and defense. Jury will decide the fate of suspect Richard Allen.

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Not a word about Allen’s family.

 

[Tortoise]

Gull says the jury again had supervised contact with their electronic devices. She explains some of the case specific jury instructions:

1. The jury must follow all law while deliberating.
2. The jury must consider all facts.

Gull reads all the counts against Allen. He shakes his head as Gull reads charges that say he killed “AW,” and “LG.” She explains the concept of beyond reasonable doubt and the definition of murder.

Gull explains that if the state proved beyond a reasonable doubt that Allen killed the girls, they must find him guilty and vice versa.

Gull explains “intentionally” and what it means.

Delphi Murders trial: Day 18 live blog

Delphi Murders trial continues with closing arguments from both prosecution and defense. Jury will decide the fate of suspect Richard Allen.

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[StarryStarryNight]

The stupid headphone theory, proffered, if I recall correctly, by someone with outdated credentials is, in fact, stupid.
It was thrown out there by the defense to distract from the fact that they can’t get RA off that bridge or that van off that access road at 2:30pm.
The entire theory of bringing the girls back in the middle of the night, amid searchers, in total darkness, defies logic. It does now and it did in 2017 when it first appeared.
Sorry, and look away if you must, as I unburden myself of thoughts I have restrained myself from posting from day 1 to today. More may follow.

Hmmmm…..admiring my use of commas in the first sentence.

 

[MassGuy]

I am SO ready for this to be over. Either way at this point. So many dead horses viciously beaten all over the internet. I think this will all come down to the basic facts and common sense for the jurors. The rest has all been just to get knickers knotted. Its been very effective. However, its petty. And desperate. We all want the same thing. The person who did this to these girls to be locked away forever. My heart is sad for the family of these girls. I hope they are able to feel some peace soon.

We're hours or (likely) days away from the jury handing down their decision here. I'd much rather be the prosecution than the defense, but the division in this case tells me that anything is possible. I'm absolutely convinced of his guilt, but if the jury is not, a spectacularly dangerous man could go free. There would be no celebrating our "system working" if that's the case.

I'm not worried about him doing this again (killing kids), but I am worried that he's the type to carry out the threats he's allegedly made in that local jail. He's an angry man who could be out for revenge.

 

[MassGuy]

10:55 A.M. PROSECUTION BEGINS ITS CLOSING ARGUMENT.​

At 9:17 a.m. prosecutor Nick McLeland begins closing arguments.

He tells the jury “February 13th is a day Delphi will never forget.” He says the state has proven that Allen is Bridge Guy. He tells the jury “the State has done just that.”

McLeland talks about that day. Where Libby was the last time she talked to Becky Patty, Libby’s grandmother. He is showing the jury a Power Point with Libby and Abby’s Snapchat photo from Kelsi German’s car. He recounts the search Libby’s father made and how he called Becky Patty.

McLeland tells the jury about the search and that Brad Weber, the neighbors, let them look around his property. He says they did not look through the house at that time, however.

McLeland goes through the testimony of several people on the bridge and in the area that saw Bridge Guy, from Betsy Blair who saw the girls, to Sarah Carbaugh who said she saw Bridge Guy “muddy and bloody.”

He says “that doesn’t happen around here,” referring to the murders. He describes the bodies being found and shows photos of the girls’ clothes in Deer Creek.
He describes the crime scene being secured.

McLeland begins to talk about firearms and how officers in Carroll County carry 9mm handguns and not .40 cal. He says “remember that for later.”

He shows the crime scene and says “this is what they saw.” He says a phone was collected from under Abby’s shoe which was under her body. He says they collected a cartridge and shows it at the scene.

Delphi Murders trial: Day 18 live blog

Delphi Murders trial continues with closing arguments from both prosecution and defense. Jury will decide the fate of suspect Richard Allen.

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[Tortoise]

Defense should just step up and chuck a pan of spaghetti at the wall.

 

[KentuckyMama]

Defense should just step up and chuck a pan of spaghetti at the wall.

No noodles would stick. And that would be proof of odinites!

 

[Warwick7]

The stupid headphone theory, proffered, if I recall correctly, by someone with outdated credentials is, in fact, stupid.
It was thrown out there by the defense to distract from the fact that they can’t get RA off that bridge or that van off that access road at 2:30pm.
The entire theory of bringing the girls back in the middle of the night, amid searchers, in total darkness, defies logic. It does now and it did in 2017 when it first appeared.
Sorry, and look away if you must, as I unburden myself of thoughts I have restrained myself from posting from day 1 to today. More may follow.

Hmmmm…..admiring my use of commas in the first sentence.

AGREED!!

 

[Tortoise]

McLeland shows the jury a photo of Libby’s phone. He shows the Bridge Guy video from Feb. 13, 2017 at 2:13 p.m. He says “the video shows the moment they were forced down the hill by the guy in the video, Bridge Guy.”

Delphi Murders trial: Day 18 live blog

Delphi Murders trial continues with closing arguments from both prosecution and defense. Jury will decide the fate of suspect Richard Allen.

wishtv.com

 

[MiniMoo]

Defense should just step up and chuck a pan of spaghetti at the wall.

No noodles would stick. And that would be proof of odinites!

Does that spaghetti have any sauce?

 

[Warwick7]

Well, hang on here we go.......

We all want justice for these two young women. And I have no doubt there is a good and studious set of jurors in place.

Hang on tight.....here we go.....

 

[Tortoise]

Does that spaghetti have any sauce?

Yes, fishy.

 

[Tortoise]

“He forced them down the hill with a gun,” McLeland tells the jury.

He says Libby said in the video, “that be a gun.”

He shows the jury an enhanced version of the Bridge Guy video.

McLeland says law enforcement interviewed people on the bridge that day. He shows a photo a witness took of Freedom Bridge. He recounts Bre Wilber saying she saw a man on the trails “walking with a purpose.” He shows the jury Besty Blair’s Fitbit information. He talks about Sara Carbaugh seeing a man ‘muddy and bloody’ on 300N.

Delphi Murders trial: Day 18 live blog

Delphi Murders trial continues with closing arguments from both prosecution and defense. Jury will decide the fate of suspect Richard Allen.

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[INfisherman]

Does that spaghetti have any sauce?

Yes, it’s found in & around cow pastures.

 

[MiniMoo]

Yes, it’s found in & around cow pastures.

Tomato fields. Got it!