AK, NY Israel Keyes - Who are all of his victims???

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  1. SheWhoMustNotBeNamed

    SheWhoMustNotBeNamed Former Member

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    Israel Keyes, accused in the kidnapping and killing of 18-year-old Samantha Koenig, is dead in an apparent suicide and is suspected in at least seven other deaths outside Alaska, authorities said Sunday.

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    We believe there are four victims in Washington state," one in New York state, and a couple from Essex, Vt.

    Authorities said Sunday that Keyes had confessed to the kidnapping and murder of the Vermont couple, Bill and Lorraine Currier, who disappeared in June 2011. Their bodies have not been recovered.

    Rook said authorities do not know the names of the suspected additional victims in New York and Washington.
     
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    SheWhoMustNotBeNamed Former Member

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    Israel Keyes owns a cabin in Constable, New York, which is on the Canadian border. http://www.ktva.com/news/samantha-ko...164538596.html

    Keyes worked in Washington state from 1995 to 1997, served in the Army for three years, and from 2001 to 2007 worked for the Makah Tribal Council in Neah Bay, Wash. http://www.azcentral.com/news/articl...ved-found.html


    Possible clues on area and time frame for potential victims to look at. (Of course, LE said Keyes traveled a LOT, so do not limit it to these specific areas!)

    Let's go, Websleuthers!!!
     
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    mikkismom Well-Known Member

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  4. gliving

    gliving Just the facts, ma'am

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    http://www.ktva.com/home/top-stories/Israel-Keyes-Dead-181757811.html

    At the press conference authorities said Keyes also admitted to killing Bill and Lorraine Currier of Vermont, who went missing in June 2011 and whose bodies have never been found. Keyes also led investigators to believe he had killed four people in Washington State and one in New York State. Keyes statements led authorities to believe his victims spanned a broad range of ages, and he'd committed the crimes over a ten-year-plus period of time. They said he expressed no remorse about his crimes, but had been cooperating with investigators, who last talked to him on Thursday.
     
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    Knox Wear Pink & Eat Cake ~ Lauren Giddings

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    Important to note a few things revealed at the pressor today:


    • "Keyes did not have a particular type of victim. It was more about the circumstance which presented itself".

    • Keyes traveled extensively. LE said he boarded a plane and rented a car. In other words, victims are probably not limited to where he lived and worked. But also the areas he traveled to.

    The four victims he told them about in WA state are unnamed, as is the one in NY state. LE did not indicate whether or not they have any idea who they may be. But did say the FBI will be coordinating and working with local LE agencies.

    A couple of my ideas are Nancy Moyer and Lindsey Baum. But maybe it's best to look at people who went missing during the periods he was actually living in WA State.

    Sure wish we could hear from some of the people he served with while in the Army and living at Fort Lewis.
     
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    gliving Just the facts, ma'am

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    Colville, Wa where he lived in 96.

    http://goo.gl/maps/hmq6U

    Across the state from Neah Bay! Maybe we can at least narrow it to northern Washington State? :waitasec:


    ETA - here are all three locations - all northern WA

    http://goo.gl/maps/4bLTY

    Got my Geography lesson for the day. jmo
     
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    gliving Just the facts, ma'am

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    Authorities were not releasing any details about how he killed his victims. They said they wanted to first talk to the victims' families, who will never get the sense of finality that a jury trial or guilty plea would bring.

    Loeffler said investigations into the deaths will continue even though there will be no prosecution.

    Investigators had spent dozens of hours talking to Keyes in the months since his arrest. He was continuing to cooperate, talking to investigators as recently as Thursday, but only letting out bits of information at a time. His death hurts the law enforcement investigation, they said.

    Read more here: http://www.adn.com/2012/12/02/2710993/israel-keyes-is-dead-troopers.html#storylink=cpy

    This link is updating often. Keep checking for further news.
     
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    This is so difficult because as far as we know, Keyes had no specific age or sex he targeted! Soooo wish we could narrow this down!

    Bryce Herda is the only one still missing from Neah Bay that I'm aware of. 6 year old boy disappeared in 1995. http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/h/herda_bryce.html

    Found Ace Anderson is also missing from Neah Bay. 68 year old male in 2003. https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/2874/0/


    Missing from Washington between 1995-1997, when Keyes was living there: (Of course there's a TON more from 2001-2007 but figured I'd start here.)

    Ramona Fey (39) from Ashford in July 1995.
    William Shannon (47) from Skykomish in Sept 1995.
    Jimmie Caine (24) from Seattle in Nov 1995.

    Loukthayoth Phiangdae (11) from Raymond in Feb 1996.
    Christina Roof (27) from Everett in March 1996.
    Anthony Sam (29) from Auburn in April 1996.
    Anthony Davis (34) from Seattle in May 1996.
    Michelle Maitland (30) from Olympia in September 1996.
    Phyllis Lewellen (36) from Cowlitz County in December 1996.

    Penney Cruser (30) from Spokane in March 1997.
    Katya Lyne (15) from Federal Way in March 1997.
    Kelly Huff (37) from Seattle in July 1997.
    Harry March (77) from Sultan in Oct 1997.
    Bruce DeVoe (40) from Tenino in Nov 1997.
    John Weisz (29) from Auburn in Nov 1997.
    Cheryl Valenti (33) from Vancouver in November 1997.
    Lisa Sledge (28) from Marysville in December 1997.


    And probably others that I missed. There should be a way to narrow this list down. Check some "circumstances" of the cases at Charley? If they have a known suspect, we can probably eliminate them.


    ETA: I removed a few with known or highly suspected suspects.
     
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    gliving Just the facts, ma'am

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    Chris Daniels ‏@ChrisDaniels5
    .@KING5 has confirmed, via documents, Israel Keyes called Ft. Lewis home in the early 2000's.

    2m Chris Daniels ‏@ChrisDaniels5
    Alaskan FBI Agent tells me on Israel Keyes "We believe he is a serial killer", capable of "multiple murders" in Washington State, elsewhere.

    41m Chris Daniels ‏@ChrisDaniels5
    Update: Alaska Authorities says Keyes admitted to killing four people in Washington State, another in NY & couple in VT http://ow.ly/fL5Wi

    1h Chris Daniels ‏@ChrisDaniels5
    Anchorage Daily News says Keyes was stationed at Ft. Lewis, worked on Makah reservation, hometown of Colville, WA: http://ow.ly/fL4Rm

    1h Chris Daniels ‏@ChrisDaniels5
    Keyes, according to AK authorities, killed himself in jail over the weekend, but had admitted to 7 murders WA and NY states.

    1h Chris Daniels ‏@ChrisDaniels5
    BREAKING: Anchorage US Attorney on alleged Serial Killer Keyes: "this has been massive": http://ow.ly/fL4tb

    http://twitter.com/ChrisDaniels5
     
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    I'll start on Charley Project.
     
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    I think I read somewhere that he has ties to Texas as well. Wasn't he arrested in Lufkin? I don't know a lot about this case, but I thought I'd throw that out there. I am sure it's better to start with the states that have been named, since he lived there. It's hard to narrow down with no particular victim profile, and because he did travel all throughout the US. How scary and so sad for all of these families that may never know what happened. :(
     
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    According to Charley Project:
    Danny Ross Giles is the suspect in the disappearances of Tracey Brazzel (1996) and Patti Berry (1995) - DNA
    Ramona Fey is not on CP
    Lenoria Jones' caregiver gave conflicting stories about her disappearance
    William Shannon not on CP nor Jimmie Caine
    Dennis Keith Smith was convicted for the murder of Carolyn Killaby
    Charles Lyons is not on CP

    off to the next round

    More research needed on:
    Ramona Fey
    William Shannon
    Jimmie Caine
    Charles Lyons

    Reasonably eliminate:
    Tracey Brazzel
    Lenoria Jones
    Carolyn Killaby
    Charles Lyons - per below comment by airplanelamp
    jmo
     
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    I wonder if he is responsible for the disappearance of Cedrika Provencher? Aged 9 missing from Trois-Riviers Quebec (canada) July 31, 2007. When was he released from the military?

    Google is showing me that Trois-Riviers is about a 2.5 hour drive from Constable NY along a direct route. It is right on the Canada/USA border.
     
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    Charles Lyons went missing while scuba diving. Failed to surface. Unlikely to be a victim.

    https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/show/14278
     
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    According to Charley Project:
    Loukthayoth Phiangdae - not enough info to go either way. Fight with parents, door locked, screen missing. http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/p/phiangdae_loukthayoth.html

    Christina Roof - not enough info either way. Mentally ill, tried to cross border, car found. http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/r/roof_christina.html

    Anthony Sam is not on CP nor is Anthony Davis

    Michelle Maitland - few details available - no suspect http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/m/maitland_michelle.html

    Phyllis Lewellen - DH said she went on a drive at night, Michael Brae (serial killer) was ruled out. Wrote a check after she left. http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/l/lewellen_phyllis.html
     
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