AK - Samantha Koenig, 18, Anchorage, 01 Feb 2012 - #7

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  1. bessie

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    Police seeking information about missing barista
    Anchorage police are looking for a missing 18-year-old woman last seen at the Midtown coffee stand where she worked, police say.
    Police believe Samantha Koenig locked up Common Grounds Espresso, outside the Midtown Alaska Club at 630 E. Tudor Road, about 8 p.m. Wednesday at the end of her shift. Koenig's family, her boyfriend and her employer have not heard from her since, said police spokesman Lt. Dave Parker.
    Court records show Koenig filed for a protective order against a man in November but failed to show up at court. The order was not issued.
    http://www.thenewstribune.com/2012/02/02/2010129/police-seeking-information-about.html

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  3. cluciano63

    cluciano63 Active Member

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    Carrying over from the last thread...I know it is a RUMOR at this point, but if it is true that Samantha was combing hair, etc...before leaving with the abductor...first, that could be why LE was reluctant to show it, as clearly that would affect a jury, and also might explain why her father is so determined to say that she did not know IR in any way....which of course, we know he has no way of knowing who his daughter knows, or comes into contact with, at least not everyone. JMO
     
  4. bessie

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    From the previous thread:



     
  5. bessie

    bessie <b><span style="color:#007C00;">WS Administrator</ Administrator

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    Welcome, 503 mpco!

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  6. Snowbunny

    Snowbunny New Member

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    If there's any truth to her being seen on the video changing her sweatshirt and brushing her hair then I can see why LE might feel that it might taint a jury. If LE showed a video like that one might get the impression that this whole thing was staged and they certainly won't get the support from the public to bring closure to this case. The people in Anchorage will pour their hearts out to you until you cross them. Haven't heard anything more about SK's grand parents going on vacation to the lower 48.
     
  7. gliving

    gliving Just the facts, ma'am

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    Hmmm, a patient abductor. How unusual. It almost gives me hope.

    MOO
     
  8. ConnectedSuitor

    ConnectedSuitor New Member

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    Here is a timeline of IK up until his arrest, from info I've gathered.

    1/7/78 IK was born. Place of birth unknown.
    According to this article he grew up Mormon in Utah and was home schooled: http://www.ktva.com/news/samantha-koenig-abduction/Who-is-Israel-Keyes-143417766.html

    1994 approx. He built a cabin in Colville, WA when he was 16. Some time after that he helps build a cabin designed by his sisters in Houlton, ME. Info gathered from this photo in a directory but not published on his website: http://keyesconstruction.net/yahoo_site_admin/assets/images/web_pics.15215524

    1995-1997 according to his website: Worked for a General Contractor by the name of Kelly Harris in Colville, WA. on a seven man crew. Building approximatly 6 duplex/spec. Stick frame and log homes a year. http://keyesconstruction.net/work_history

    Oct 1997 he buys 10 acres of land in Constable, NY for $15,000 which he still owns. http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/511-Poplar-St-Constable-NY-12926/30442741_zpid/
    http://franklincony.org/content/Dep...ld=documents;/content/Documents/File/2138.pdf

    1998-2000 His SS on public court documents starts with 127-86-xxx. If the SS# info is correct, he got his SS# in NY around 1998. According to his website: Served three years in the Army Infantry and was stationed in Ft. Lewis, Ft Hood, and Sianai, Egypt. Honorable discharge in June 2000.

    2/7/01 gets a DUI on Ft. Lewis, plea agreement signed June 4, 2001.

    2002 according to statements made at his arraignment, IK has a ten year old daughter who would have been born around 2002.

    2001-2007 according to his website, IK works for the Makah Tribe in Neah Bay, WA.

    2006 runs a marathon in Olympia, WA.

    2007 IK moves to Alaska.

    2009 IKs girlfriend KA buys house on Spurr Lane where they live together. He remodels extensively according to neighbors.
     
  9. Fishermom

    Fishermom New Member

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    Hi Snowbunny
    I didn't hear anything about grandparents GOING to the lower 48 for vacation...instead, I thought I read some chat about how strange it was that they hadn't COME UP TO ALASKA during this whole ordeal...though perhaps you are referring to the other set of GPs? :)
     
  10. cluciano63

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    I suppose he could have told her to comb her hair and change her shirt...who knows...
     
  11. SmoothOperator

    SmoothOperator Sadly what connects all these puzzles is that ther

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    What grandparents? I've seen nil even pointing toward there actually being any grandparents from either side of the family.. in fact the only thing about a grandparent period that was mentioned(that I've personally seen/read) was one comment made underneath a news article.. that's it..
     
  12. SmoothOperator

    SmoothOperator Sadly what connects all these puzzles is that ther

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  13. 503mpco

    503mpco New Member

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    Thanks for the welcome! I am indeed excited to at least hash it out. Haha. My husband is sick of hearing me talk about it. I don't know why it interests me so. I think its because we don't really get things like this up here. Ive lived her 20 years and there have been very very few crimes like this. I also have all daughters, including teenagers, so it hits home. KWIM? I'm secretly hoping that it is something totally bizarre drug related or something OTHER than a random terrible crime.

    But really I've got nothing. :) You guys know everything I know and then some aside from adding some local knowledge.

    The area his house is in it is not unusual to be extensively remodeled because that area is one of the older neighborhoods. I'd say most houses in that area have been extensively remodeled or need to be. :) That in itself is not odd. I haven't heard anything about him. I have some friends who live in his area who knew nothing of him. That seems to be the trend. Sorry, no help there. Edited to add that it is an older neighborhood as far as houses but considered a nice family oriented neighborhood. Its actually a very desirable part of town and is mostly families with younger kids.

    Does anyone know if his girlfriend and daughter (his/hers/theirs) has been questioned? I'm surprised they are still here. Being fairly new to the area relatively speaking if I were them I'd have taken an extended vacation out of town. I'm sure people around them are just on egg shells. Is it possible she has been told to stay put?

    I do agree 100% that the people of Alaska have your back big time and are a very very close knit group when stuff hits the fan. When people come visit me up here they call it leave it to beaver land. We have block parties with our neighbors, we know all of our neighbors at least casually, people are VERY openly friendly overall. There is a Foxworthy joke that you know you're in Alaska if you are in home depot and someone asks if you need help and they don't work there. :)
     
  14. 503mpco

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    So the other thing that has bugged me that I haven't seen addressed here locally is why there wasn't some kind of search party?? If they left on foot why wouldn't they canvas the areas around there. I don't know that they didn't but they said nothing about it if they did. There are some construction areas around there, some big public parks, TONS of bike trails that lead all over the city, etc. Seems like there would have been more extensive ground searches if they didn't know he had a car, etc. ?? KWIM? And then learning a few days later "oh no, we are sorry, they went south not north" was SO odd.

    And one last thing and then I'll stop obsessing......or at least stop bugging you guys with my obsessing hahaha...have they said anything anywhere about having seen them on other business's survilance? There are many many businesses that surround those areas that would have video as well. There is a huge car dealership directly next door, the fitness club, there is a huge home depot and a Lowes and then down from that several popular restaurants like TGI Fridays and Applebees etc. Even the side streets around there are full of businesses you would think would have video. Behind the fitness club is a granite place with a storage yard full of granite and tiles, etc. I would imagine they have some kind of video on their yard/lot? There is also a muni building back there which I have seen cameras on the outside. Across the street from the hut is our TV news station with their huge antennas right out front on the edge of the road. Surly they have cameras?? There are also a few bars and if they went a few blocks in one direction its like car dealership row. Because we have had record snow falls cutting across areas would be very difficult. It is SO deep there is just no way they were "off roading" so to speak on foot. We are talking a LOT of snow!! I tried to cut across a little median part in a parking lot last week and fell in up to my waist in snow. So I'd be hard pressed to believe they didn't use paths, sidewalks or cut through parking lots. But nothing about any other video???
     
  15. IHAVENOCLUE

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    Thanks, ConnectedSuitor!
    This is great!
     
  16. bessie

    bessie <b><span style="color:#007C00;">WS Administrator</ Administrator

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    Before the thread rolls any further, let's get this out of the way...
    (bessie running off to get the rule book>>>>>
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  17. IHAVENOCLUE

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    Welcome 503mpco!:welcome4::welcome4::welcome::welcome4::welcome4I

    It is so good to have more local information from you!
    I have wondered about the situation with the girlfriend, but have heard very little. MSM (main stream media) hasn't reported very much about her.
    Your city sounds like a great place to live...where everyone is so friendly!
     
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    Snowbunny - Just to reply to a post of yours in the prior thread, I don't think it matters that KA owns the property. If IK was the only who had access to the shed there (it probably had a lock on it, right?) then she could not consent to its search.

    Here's an analogy for you: say you have a son living in your home, but his room is "off limits" to everyone else and he even locks it when he leaves (unusual, I know). If the cops came and tried to search his room your consent might not be enough even though you own the home.

    Sorry if this seems off-topic but it may be relevant. It could explain why the FBI waited until now to seize the shed--perhaps before they couldn't get into it and didn't have enough to get a separate warrant for it.
     
  19. Ransom

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    Seems you missed this from your local news:

    http://www.ktva.com/home/outbound-xml-feeds/Update-Koenig-Kidnapping--138827714.html
    Feb 6, 2012 at 8:17 PM AKDT
    Story Updated: Feb 9, 2012 at 10:29 AM AKDT

    With a combination of foot searches, signs being posted and flyers being distributed, it&#8217;s truly a community-wide effort that has only one goal in mind: finding Samantha and bringing her home.

    It&#8217;s a mission to find Samantha that Jeremy Canaday says he is more than willing to help out with.
    On Monday night Jeremy was one of dozens putting up signs and walking on foot to find anything and anybody who might know what happened to her.

    more on the link about knocking on doors, looking in the snow drifts, etc.
     
  20. 503mpco

    503mpco New Member

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    Thanks Ransom. My impression was that they had done kind of a neighborhood canvasing, knocking on doors, etc. not like a people walking through the snow filled field two feet apart from one another kind of search. Thanks for clarifying.

    And sorry if I broke any rules and thus the need for the clarification. All I have is rumor and speculation so I'll just sit back and watch. :) If anyone needs specific local info on something I'll be your go to girl. Otherwise I'll just read. Certainly don't want to cause any problems!

    Edited to add that yes indeed Alaska is a very welcoming friendly place to live. Granted you have to be able to deal with limited sunshine in the winter and long winters but that's my only single complaint. The community as a whole is amazing and it is a fantastic place to raise kids.
     
  21. bessie

    bessie <b><span style="color:#007C00;">WS Administrator</ Administrator

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    I'm sorry if you misunderstood, 503mpco. My post wasn't meant only for you. Ask these guys who've been around awhile. They'll tell you that reminders are posted at random throughout the threads, and most often in the beginning of a new one. So please don't be discouraged from posting. Speculation is fine. It's what we do here most of the time. We don't have all of the facts, obviously, or we wouldn't be here. So we attempt to put the pieces together to form a picture based on the facts we do have. Rumors, on the other hand, are like fuzz on a computer screen. They make it hard to see the image. :)
     
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