AK - Samantha Koenig, 18, Anchorage, 01 Feb 2012 - #7

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  1. Knox

    Knox Well-Known Member

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    If only the public had known what James was enduring during the period before Sam's body was found. Then after the fact, (which was never publicly disclosed until now) he knew what Keyes had done to Sam's body.

    Yes MagnoliaMom, God Bless James Koenig.
     
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    raindrops New Member

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    I agree with you both. God Bless James Koenig.
     
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    I wonder if Keyes got the Drano idea from studying Jeffery Dahmer's methods of madness.

    JMO
     
  5. Joe Friday

    Joe Friday Well-Known Member

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    In this article it say's Keyes showed LE the location where he had placed Samantha's body in the lake using Google Earth.

     
  6. Jersey*Girl

    Jersey*Girl Active Member

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    Omg I missed so much. He killed himself? One less *** sharing our oxygen is how I see it, but what a coward. At least he could have left a list of all of his victims. So, us Websleuthers are a pretty smart bunch...huh? Alot of us knew Sam couldn't have been his first, that he could have been a serial killer, predicted he'd commit suicide... Jesus. Sam's family is in my thoughts. May they all find peace someday.
     
  7. SmoothOperator

    SmoothOperator Sadly what connects all these puzzles is that ther

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    could this actually be the possible reason for his suicide at this point in time?

    in an article immediately up thread it goes in depth about how very much he cared for and loved his young daughter, and was very concerned for what she would one day endure as a result of his crimes..

    could it be that this way IK will never be known as a convicted murderer OF ANYONE..IN HIS KILLING HIMSELF AT THIS POINT HIS DEATH ABATED HIS CRIMES EVER BEING PROSECUTED AND CONVICTED.. HIS DEATH FORCED THE CHARGES TO ACTUALLY BE DISMISSED AND WITHDRAWN FROM THE COURTS..

    IMO I do see this is a possibility and a way of exerting what miniscule amount of control that he had left..which IMO quite possibly in his twisted mind he believed to be of great importance, as in the charges actually being dismissed, thereby technically he's never a convicted serial killer, actually becoming an individual that via death HAS ALL CHARGES DISMISSED(which IMO i dont really understand at all the reason that technical step is necessary)..but of course IANAL..
     
  8. SmoothOperator

    SmoothOperator Sadly what connects all these puzzles is that ther

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    expounding further on the above issue of IK caring for and loving dearly his young daughter and voicing his very real concern for the hurt she would likely endure in coming years as she began to learn the horrific truth of who and what her daddy was...

    I find this to be so opposite of such type of psychopathic mind as that of IK's.. his inability to have any feeling for other human beings, his seeing them as nothing more than an object there for his pleasure, enjoyment, and entertainment..and the fact that it certainly appears as tho he's had these psychopathic tendencies and mindset from an extremely early age, if not from birth..

    How then is he really even capable of knowing the depth of that type true loving and caring for another human, even be it his own young child, of his own flesh AND blood..TBH most individuals of this true psychopathology are INCAPABLE OF HAVING SUCH DEEP FEELINGS AND TRUE EMOTIONS OF ACTUALLY LOVING AND CARING FOR ANOTHER, BE IT EVEN THEIR OWN CHILD...

    Most times truly it isn't at all about love or care for the child, but rather out of some other twisted "feeling" that in reality revolves and is centered completely around themselves...and having very little, if anything at all to do with actual feeling for and toward their child...

    idk..just something that caught my eye in reading about his expressing his supposed deep love and concern for his daughter..and IMO that not aligning with what a truly psychopathic mindset that IK IMO obviously was...
     
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    dsntslp New Member

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    Is there a timeline of his movements, from location to location, over the years available anywhere yet?
     
  10. Scanner

    Scanner Well-Known Member

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    Here's one timeline:

    The FBI said the timeline is based on Keyes' financial and travel records.

    Oct. 5, 2004, to Oct. 16, 2004: Eastern U.S.

    April 20, 2005, to April 25, 2005: Washington state, Canada's British Columbia

    May 10, 2006, to May 15, 2006: Western U.S.

    Sept. 1, 2006, to Sept. 7, 2006: Alaska

    Oct. 21, 2006, to Oct. 23, 2006: Western U.S., Mexico

    Nov. 8, 2006, to Nov. 16, 2006: Alaska

    Feb. 5, 2007, to Feb. 8, 2007: Southwest U.S.

    March 1, 2007, to March 9, 2007: Washington, Canada (drove to Alaska)

    April 24, 2007, to May 4, 2007: Western U.S., Mexico

    Aug. 26, 2007, to Sept. 6, 2007: Western U.S.

    Oct. 29, 2007, to Nov. 2, 2007: Western U.S.

    Nov. 12, 2007, to Nov. 13, 2007: Western U.S.

    Dec. 4, 2007, to Dec. 17, 2007: Midwest U.S. and Western U.S.

    Jan. 5, 2008, to Jan. 8, 2008: Western U.S.

    Jan. 28, 2008, to Feb. 15, 2008: Southern U.S. and Western U.S.

    May 11, 2008 to May 17, 2008: Western U.S.

    July 3, 2008, to July 7, 2008: Western U.S.

    Sept. 16, 2008, to Sept. 24, 2008: Western U.S.

    Oct. 24, 2008, to Nov. 5, 2008: Southwest U.S., Midwest U.S. and Western U.S.

    Dec, 5, 2008, to Dec. 7, 2008: Hawaii

    Dec. 11, 2008, to Dec. 25, 2008: Mexico

    Feb. 23, 2009, to Feb. 27, 2009: Western U.S.

    April 1, 2009, to April 14, 2009: Eastern U.S., Western U.S.

    Sept. 11, 2009, to Oct. 3, 2009: Southern U.S.

    Dec. 17, 2009, to Dec. 29, 2009: Southern U.S.

    Jan. 11, 2010, to Feb. 25, 2010: Western U.S.

    March 1, 2010, to March 10, 2010: Western U.S.

    April 24, 2010, to April 30, 2010: Western U.S.

    May 19, 2010, to July 18, 2010: Midwest U.S. and Western U.S.

    July 18, 2010, to July 22, 2010: Southwest U.S.

    Oct. 15, 2010, to Oct. 25, 2010: Midwest U.S., Eastern U.S.

    June 2, 2011, to June 16, 2011: Midwest U.S., Eastern U.S.

    Sept. 15, 2011, to Sept. 25, 2011: Western U.S.

    Feb. 2, 2017, to Feb. 18, 2012: Southern U.S.

    March 6, 2012, to March 13, 2012: Southwestern and Southern U.S.

    From: https://www.adirondackdailyenterpri...9/Israel-Keyes--travel-timeline.html?nav=5248
     
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    Oh Scanner! Thank you so much.

    December 2004 is what I am interested in if anybody finds anything more concrete than "Eastern U.S.".

    Could he have been in Georgia on December 13th of 2004?

    Thanks again, truly!
    Good info!
     
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    This is a really good idea but I do find it hard to navigate in the little picture boxes to access the timeline in broken pieces. :( I will manage though! :) Thank you for your help, truly, truly. :)
     
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    July 31, 2006
    Mystery in the MountainsBy Alex Tresniowski
    With Few Clues and No Suspects, the Murder of Mary Cooper and Her Daughter Susanna Stodden on a Popular Hiking Trail Shocks Seattle
    http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20061488,00.html


    Only hours later both women were dead, shot and killed on a popular trail in Mount Baker-Snoqualmie National Forest in Washington State. A hiker recalled seeing them on the trail at 10 that morning; another came across their bodies around 2:30 p.m. and called police. Investigators say that robbery was apparently not a motive—Cooper's 1997 Dodge Caravan was found where she parked it at the trailhead—and are looking into several scenarios

    One is that the killer may have been a crystal meth addict (the nearby town of Granite Falls has had so many drug problems it's been called Methville); another is that the murders may somehow be linked to the shooting of two Oregon hikers one year earlier.

    "Seems that there is always a meth connection, either directly or indirectly, "..
     
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    This is going to sound incredibly mean, but I don't care about his daughter's reaction in the future. I care about the hundreds of family and friends of the people he killed and left in limbo with his suicide. :furious: :banghead:
     
  17. Knox

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    The timeline shows Keyes, who had lived in Anchorage since 2007, traveled extensively throughout the United States over the past several years, and also entered Mexico and Canada. He had a pattern of landing in one location then driving long distances, so most of the locations are grouped by regions.


    The FBI said the timeline is based on Keyes' financial and travel records.
    Oct. 5, 2004, to Oct. 16, 2004: Eastern U.S.
    April 20, 2005, to April 25, 2005: Washington state, Canada's British Columbia


    May 10, 2006, to May 15, 2006: Western U.S.
    Sept. 1, 2006, to Sept. 7, 2006: Alaska
    Oct. 21, 2006, to Oct. 23, 2006: Western U.S., Mexico
    Nov. 8, 2006, to Nov. 16, 2006: Alaska
    Feb. 5, 2007, to Feb. 8, 2007: Southwest U.S.
    March 1, 2007, to March 9, 2007: Washington, Canada (drove to Alaska)
    April 24, 2007, to May 4, 2007: Western U.S., Mexico
    Aug. 26, 2007, to Sept. 6, 2007: Western U.S.
    Oct. 29, 2007, to Nov. 2, 2007: Western U.S.
    Nov. 12, 2007, to Nov. 13, 2007: Western U.S.
    Dec. 4, 2007, to Dec. 17, 2007: Midwest U.S. and Western U.S.
    Jan. 5, 2008, to Jan. 8, 2008: Western U.S.
    Jan. 28, 2008, to Feb. 15, 2008: Southern U.S. and Western U.S.
    May 11, 2008 to May 17, 2008: Western U.S.
    July 3, 2008, to July 7, 2008: Western U.S.
    Sept. 16, 2008, to Sept. 24, 2008: Western U.S.
    Oct. 24, 2008, to Nov. 5, 2008: Southwest U.S., Midwest U.S. and Western U.S.
    Dec, 5, 2008, to Dec. 7, 2008: Hawaii
    Dec. 11, 2008, to Dec. 25, 2008: Mexico
    Feb. 23, 2009, to Feb. 27, 2009: Western U.S.
    April 1, 2009, to April 14, 2009: Eastern U.S., Western U.S.
    Sept. 11, 2009, to Oct. 3, 2009: Southern U.S.
    Dec. 17, 2009, to Dec. 29, 2009: Southern U.S.
    Jan. 11, 2010, to Feb. 25, 2010: Western U.S.
    March 1, 2010, to March 10, 2010: Western U.S.
    April 24, 2010, to April 30, 2010: Western U.S.
    May 19, 2010, to July 18, 2010: Midwest U.S. and Western U.S.
    July 18, 2010, to July 22, 2010: Southwest U.S.
    Oct. 15, 2010, to Oct. 25, 2010: Midwest U.S., Eastern U.S.
    June 2, 2011, to June 16, 2011: Midwest U.S., Eastern U.S.
    Sept. 15, 2011, to Sept. 25, 2011: Western U.S.
    Feb. 2, 2017, to Feb. 18, 2012: Southern U.S.
    March 6, 2012, to March 13, 2012: Southwestern and Southern U.S.


    https://www.adirondackdailyenterpri...9/Israel-Keyes--travel-timeline.html?nav=5248
     
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    Serial Killer Israel Keyes' Defense Team Still on the Case

    Keyes defense lawyers are still active.

    "This comes to light because of a motion filed by the online newspaper Alaska Dispatch.

    The Dispatch has moved in U.S. District Court to have all records in the Keyes case unsealed for public inspection.

    In response, Keyes' lawyers -- a federal public defender based in Anchorage and a two-person team from a Seattle law firm -- have filed a motion asking for a delay in the release of any information."

    From link: http://www.ktva.com/home/outbound-xml-feeds/The-Talking-Dead----186093971.html

    Also from above link:

    "Meanwhile, the blood-soaked note that was found with Keyes' body has been analyzed by the FBI in Quantico, Virginia, and the message has been deciphered.

    Local FBI spokesman Eric Gonzalez said the agency is likely to release the contents this week or next."
     
  20. LucyOso

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    I have a question. Someone mentioned IK was seeking "drivers" for his construction company. Do we ever know if he ever hired anyone? If so, could some of the financial records actually be an employee using the account, thus covering where IK is at any given time?
     
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