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Those are possibilities. A press release from the Clay County Sherriff on FB was removed due to a gag order. It may have had more information about the group's circumstances.Unbelievable. Women “living off the grid“ implies it’s by choice to live that way. Or are they homeless due to circumstances? Are they part of a larger group? A new kind of “gang” that lives off the grid and survives on robbing people?
Police: Women living ‘off the grid’ in Alabama behind kidnapping, shooting that killed UCF student
Investigators said at one point one of the women, later identified as Yasmine Hider, pulled out a gun and forced the couple intro the forest.www.wftv.com
Such as?
Me, I don’t see it as complex. There’s an alert and articulate witness who saw it all go down and was a victim herself. And there’s LE discovery in the woods, as they have stated. Both apparent perps are still alive. That’s as about as good as it gets as far as clarity in the early days of a case. IMO
Woman fakes being stranded, then kills Florida college student who stopped, AL cops say
“Yesterday my world ended.”
Complex story
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Well, I think quite obviously institutions like notably children's services and law enforcement were not covering these people the way they would have a decade or two ago but to be candid, I am referencing more esoteric social institutions like property, community and family. Why did the owner of this land not express concerns? Why didn't neighbors? Can we no longer safely stop for a lone woman standing by the side of the road begging for help? Where was this child's father?
Yes, that's very possible. That's why I brought up affordable housing. Evidently, there were more than 2 women out there, since there were many tents.
The owner of the property is US, via the federal government. Concerns are being expressed. Evidently, the camp with multiple tents was hidden 'til now. And now that it's been discovered, something is being done about it.
The women do indeed seem to have chosen to live off-grid. You don't just kinda land in a spot in the woods with a whole bunch of tents. However, their circumstances might explain their choices. Or not.Unbelievable. Women “living off the grid“ implies it’s by choice to live that way. Or are they homeless due to circumstances? Are they part of a larger group? A new kind of “gang” that lives off the grid and survives on robbing people?
Police: Women living ‘off the grid’ in Alabama behind kidnapping, shooting that killed UCF student
Investigators said at one point one of the women, later identified as Yasmine Hider, pulled out a gun and forced the couple intro the forest.
I agree and suspect this was less a case of "survivalist" thinking and more a case of a crime driven by desperation.
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Me, I don’t see it as complex. There’s an alert and articulate witness who saw it all go down and was a victim herself. And there’s LE discovery in the woods, as they have stated. Both apparent perps are still alive. That’s as about as good as it gets as far as clarity in the early days of a case. IMO
While there may be affordable housing issues that caused a group to live on National Forest land, this has been happening more frequently lately for no “need” reason at all. People are watching “survivalist” channels on YouTube, IG, and “survivalist” reality shows and getting the idea they could go live off someone else’s property forever.
IMO there is nothing “survivalist” about any of these channels, ‘cos there’s no survival necessity. These “survivalists” can quit any time they want, they’re not alone (at least one other person has to be there to take the photos) although they claim to be, and they’re doing it to make money. That’s capitalism, not “survival”.
While “leave no trace” is rule of thumb for those of us who want to see pristine landscapes left to our descendants, “survivalists” are predators. They kill animals, build fires (this can change a whole ecosystem, btw), hack down trees, fish endangered species out of their home waters on our national lands, the ones that belong to all of us and the creatures that make their homes there. And are they packing out their trash and fecal matter? Of course not!
On top of all this, Search and Rescue has to go looking for these types and bringing them out when they get injured or lost.
Canada is now prosecuting these types for the damage they cause. Here are 3 cases, one involving a fatality of a wannabe, another “tip of the iceberg” charges. And all of these folks have large followings on SM that bring them $$$$ and glamorize what they’re doing. Consider as you read, the resources it takes to go after, rescue, or recover these “survivalists”.
YouTuber agrees to dismantle his hillbilly cabin in the Yukon after a court case - Yukon News
A self-proclaimed hillbilly guru has agreed to dismantle the remote — and unauthorized — off-grid Yukon log cabin he built, lived in, and boasted about on his
Then, of course, there’s the “Into the Wild” obsession, which has caused yet another death this week.
Here’s a good-read story on that topic. Rangers eventually had to remove the bus, because there were so many SAR trips needed. But still they go there…
Another 'Into the Wild' Pilgrimage Has Ended in Death
A 24-year-old woman drowned while attempting to reach the abandoned bus made famous by Christopher McCandless
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I’m not so sure, as flagging random motorists down on a ruse and holding them at gunpoint and shooting to kill would generally not reflect desperation. They would reflect criminal thinking.
