AL - Armed customer shoots armed robber holding an employee at gun point

Discussion in 'Crimes in the News' started by Karmady, Nov 30, 2013.

  1. Karmady

    Karmady Former Member

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    18 year old with a record for robbery holds up a store and has a gun to an employee's head. Armed customer walks in, sees what's going on and shoots the criminal. He didn't kill him, but I'm not sure that was on purpose.

    But here's where it gets all 2013'ish. The criminal's family says the customer had no business shooting him since there wasn't a gun to HIS head. He just should have gone out to his car and left. You have to listen to the video of the family member talking on the phone. It sounds like she said that with a straight face. To hell in a handbasket, I tell ya'.

    A family member who did not want to be identified said White should have never been shot to begin with.

    “If his (the customer) life was not in danger, if no one had a gun up to him, if no one pointed a gun at him - what gives him the right to think that it's okay to just shoot someone?” said the relative. “You should have just left the store and went wherever you had to go in your car or whatever.”

    FOX10 had interviewed White’s parents but they later called and demanded the video not be aired.

    Court records show that White was out on bond for robbing The Original Oyster House at gunpoint a little more than a month before the Family Dollar robbery.


    http://www.fox10tv.com/news/local/mobile-county/suspects-family-angry-at-good-samaritan

    eta: I can't edit the title. He was holding an employee, not a customer, at gunpoint. Not that it makes any difference, imo. Maybe a mod can edit for me?
     
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  3. popsicle

    popsicle faith hope love

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    So much for defending the life of yourself or someone else, according to that relative. ppfftt I hope they realized they inserted their foot in their mouth.

    This customer is a hero in my book.
     
  4. danzn16

    danzn16 For the missing

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    Any criminal with a gun is endangering the lives of anyone around him. It only takes a second for that criminal to point and fire at the customer. Idk what state this is in but in NC and many other laws you can protect someone's life with a gun just as you can your own.


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  5. Karmady

    Karmady Former Member

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    It's in Alabama and the customer isn't being charged. It was the family's attitude that floored me!
     
  6. Karmady

    Karmady Former Member

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    My guess would be that they lawyered up. Just a hunch, though.
     
  7. LambChop

    LambChop Former Member

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    Anyone who threatens with a gun is a threat to everyone in the store. Had the man turned to leave he could have been shot in the back with the gunman thinking he was about to alert the police. This man did shoot in self-defense. I can't see it any other way than he had no choice but to take the matter into his own hands if he felt threatened with death. In this case there was very little difference between the man and a police officer who would have done the same thing, only the criminal probably would have been dead. It could have been worse so his family should be grateful it turned out as it did. jmo
     
  8. al66pine

    al66pine New Member

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    Attempting armed robbery at a Dollar Store?

    Mensa Club will revoke his membership.
    And his family members making those comments to media too.

    JM2cts.

    [end sarc, pls carry on]
     
  9. EGirl

    EGirl #RockportStrong

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    LOL It wasn't actually a dollar store. It was the Family Dollar.

    This whole family sounds like a bunch of brain surgeons! :scared:
     
  10. Sonya610

    Sonya610 Former Member

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    Shooting to protect a human life qualifies under the a law.
     
  11. tlcya

    tlcya Well-Known Member

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    defense of self or other. pretty sure a store employee with a gun at his head qualifies as other.

    As to the family member of criminal and those comments. Apple tree fall not far. Just saying. Morons beget morons.
     
  12. Karmady

    Karmady Former Member

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    Thanks for editing my subject line :seeya:
     
  13. LambChop

    LambChop Former Member

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    Your welcome.
     
  14. jjenny

    jjenny Well-Known Member

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    Some states even allow protection of property with deadly force.
    Sounds to me like the alleged perp shouldn't have been out on bond to begin with.
     
  15. fran

    fran Former Member

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    The way things go these days, this family probably thought by getting this publicity, they'd have lawyers clamoring at their door to represent them in a civil suit against the customer and most likely even the store. OTOH, they may have had the defendants lawyer contact them instead, telling them to 'sit down and shut up!' as he was already on bond for the same type of previous behavior.:thud:

    It would really be a ironic:hot: if a family member was arrested for giving the guy his gun! :bang:

    :moo:
    fran
     
  16. Trident

    Trident Well-Known Member

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    I'm glad someone stopped this thieving POS from killing an innocent person - relative's opinions be damned.

    My opinion only
     
  17. Ellmau

    Ellmau Well-Known Member

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    Well, I don't have any sympathy for the robber, but what if the hostage had been shot by mistake/by the robber in a last move as a result of this?
     
  18. jjenny

    jjenny Well-Known Member

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    This has happened on occasion. But thankfully this time the hostage wasn't shot.
    Which is a good thing, obviously.
    And the customer's life could have been in danger even if the gun was not pointed to him. If he tried to leave, the robber could have shot him (this also have happened to customers trying to escape robberies in progress). So, IMO, the customer did what he had to do, and I applaud him for that.
     
  19. tlcya

    tlcya Well-Known Member

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    valid point. Here's another, what if the customer, intending to save the employee, accidentally killed or injured the employee while attempting to shoot the gunman holding him hostage?

    I am wondering how my thoughts might differ in that instance.
     
  20. wfgodot

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    If the NRA has its eventual dire way the thread title will next read

    "Armed customer shoots armed robber holding armed employee at gun point"
     
  21. LambChop

    LambChop Former Member

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    There are a lot of unknowns, such as the gun could have been pointed away from the employees head at the time the customer shot him. It's possible he had a chance at a good shot at the criminal and took advantage of it. Most people feel that once there is a gun pointed to their head the criminal will probably use it. jmo
     

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