AL - Brian Ogle, 17, brutally beaten, Sylacauga, 30 Sep 2016 *Arrests*

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  1. Maroon10

    Maroon10 Former Member

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    By your logic then majority of Penn State faculty are rapists
     


  2. bluesneakers

    bluesneakers not today satan

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    First of all - do we know if Black Lives Matter has anything to do with this incident?

    Second of all - please provide some links and proof of these accusations. TIA.

    Many people who are critical of Black Lives Matter are ill- or misinformed. There is a lot of propaganda and hate out there.
     
  3. katydid23

    katydid23 Well-Known Member

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    Have you watched any of the live streams of the BLM protests? I have watched a lot of them, beginning with Ferguson. I have watched, with my own eyes, the aggressive, antagonistic, hateful chants that hundreds repeat, for days at a time.

    People stand within inches of officer's faces and scream vile curse words at them , especially the black officers---they call them 'House Negros. Uncle Toms, ' Traitors. They get right in their faces and scream hateful insults at them. I have seen it done dozens of times. They scream ' Fock Da PohLEEce' over and over. How is that , in any way, a means to gain respect and equality?

    My kids are both mixed race. I know quite a bit about race relations in our society. So please do not assume I am prejudiced. It is actually the opposite. It pains me to see young people of color, acting in this hateful, erratic way. To see them blocking intersections, and then jumping up on cars, screaming at random people, trying to scare them and bully them---it really works against what they say they want to do.

    They say ' why do the police assume we are violent?' ---and then they go and set cars on fire and throw bricks through windows and throw bottles at the police. It makes no sense.

    The attention they are bringing is negative attention. They say they want to end the automatic negative connotations of POC---they can do so like my kids did. By graduating from college, getting good jobs, raising their families, being positive role models for others. :cow:

    JMO
     
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    Who said my kids NEVER had any 'issues?'
     
  8. Kimberlyd125

    Kimberlyd125 Softball is for everyone. Fast pitch is for athlet

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    And who could forget...

    "What do we want?"
    "DEAD COPS"
    "When do we want it?"
    "NOW"

    While marching behind a BLM banner.

    Hate is hate.
     
  9. Dogface

    Dogface Well-Known Member

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    Yeah for the most part they do...did notice one wearing marijuana pants and a picture of himself smoking on a rooftop of apartments, which surprises me because you would think going to a Christian college he would be careful about what he posts as a lot of time there are strict policies with these schools.
     
  10. Kimberlyd125

    Kimberlyd125 Softball is for everyone. Fast pitch is for athlet

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    Nix is the son of Tiffany Nix, newly-elected councilwoman for Sylacauga, according to the Daily Home. She told the newspaper last week that parents need to be accountable for the actions of their children.

    "If we’re upholding them in their wrongdoings, then we are as much to blame as they are," she told the paper. "Let’s lead by example, let’s be kind to one another, let's lend a hand to our neighbors no matter what color they are, let’s stand together and show our children that we love them enough to put our petty differences aside."

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/cri...ting-blue-lives-matter-teen-article-1.2827938
     
  11. TooCurious

    TooCurious Former Member

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    Yeah, let's see how much she walks back from this statement.
    BLM...(MOO) when they made it about race they lost a lot of support. The way I see it, regardless of race, the police should not have the authority to take a life for not obeying commands. Take the guy in Tulsa (black), it has come out he was on PCP....so what? She didn't know he was on PCP, he was unarmed, she shot an unarmed man regardless of his color. If they same outrage was shown for every individual shot without cause, change would have occured already.The police academies need to change the way they train police officers.
     
  12. Kimberlyd125

    Kimberlyd125 Softball is for everyone. Fast pitch is for athlet

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    I agree with Brian's mom. These chgs should be upgraded. This wasn't an assault, it was a beating. Brian may never regain everything he lost because of this attack.
     
  14. animlzrule

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    And, one can say the exact same thing about "Blue Lives Matter". So, what's the answer?
     
  15. bluesneakers

    bluesneakers not today satan

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    First: Clean up the blue, implement some of BLM's ideas, charge and punish cops who kill.

    And then... well there are entire books on what can be done. I couldn't begin to tackle poverty, equality, racism, etc., in a single comment here.
     
  16. animlzrule

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    Yes, Blue Lives Matter has either made a critical tactical error, or, an intentional provocation by pushing the racist rhetoric. The sincerity of their movement for LE support is tarnished by the ugly undercurrent of racism which is driving the message. It's now at a point where seemingly most departments are choosing to dig their heels in and continue to practice their race dependent brand of justice, versus upholding their tenet to protect and serve regardless of race. If nothing else, Black Lives Matter has exposed the issue and there's no getting the toothpaste back in the tube. As usual, the message and platform gets distorted and in some cases deliberately mischaracterized by those desperately wanting to hang onto the status quo in this country. As with other civil rights movements of the past, things will likely get much uglier before they get better.
     
  17. animlzrule

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    Yep. Don't forget housing segregation, voter suppression, on and on. It's absolutely overwhelming. But criminal justice reform, including LE policy and procedure would be an excellent place to start. There are so many people galvanized right now to help. We just need some brave, LE of integrity to stand for what is right. Much easier said than done, with the seemingly impenetrable "blue wall of silence" and a complicit union.
     
  18. bluesneakers

    bluesneakers not today satan

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    Well said!

    Blue Lives Matter wouldn't have been created without Black Lives Matter, and while they (blue lm) are a harmful group at least it's bringing light to what's going on in LE nationwide.

    IMO anyone supporting blue lives has no excuse for not understanding what they are. I don't condone in any way what happened in this case, but it's no surprise there's backlash.

    If they feel threatened I agree things will get worse before they get better. And any real change will take years.

    JMO
     
  19. katydid23

    katydid23 Well-Known Member

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    Black Lives Matter and Blue Lives Matter activists break bread in the name of unity


    http://wgntv.com/2016/11/20/black-l...r-activists-break-bread-in-the-name-of-unity/

    CHICAGO -- Faith leaders, activists, and Mount Greenwood community leaders met Sunday to try and come together after a controversial police shooting caused protests and conflict in the neighborhood.

    It was billed as a pizza bread-breaking of peace between those who live in Mount Greenwood and those who came to protest after Joshua Beal was shot and killed earlier this month by an off-duty police officer. Police say Beal was holding and pointing a gun at the officer when he was shot.
     
  20. katydid23

    katydid23 Well-Known Member

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    Blue Lives Matter are a harmful group? :thinking:
     

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