Found Deceased AL- Kamille "Cupcake" McKinney, 3, kidnapped from birthday party, Birmingham, 12 Oct 2019

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  1. GoBuckeyes

    GoBuckeyes Well-Known Member

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    Thank you, Pommy.
     
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    GoBuckeyes Well-Known Member

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    Okay, thanks.
     
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    PommyMommy #ShinelikeShanann

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    You're welcome!
     
  4. Gardener1850

    Gardener1850 Timeline Guru (Still Remembering Cupcake)

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    Thanks Steelslady. I'll recover soon I think, I'm not sure if my sudden recurrence of illness tonight was from the food poisoning or from reading this case... It's really gut-wrenching to think of any child enduring abuse. Every case it comes up I'm physically ill just thinking about it. I'm trying to hold out hope for Cupcake but it sure is difficult. It's a rare case when a small child taken for CP related reasons is found alive. But we have to think positively that it does happen sometimes. Last year a 4 year old in SC was found alive after being taken and raped by a violent perp who had also beat and raped her mother: Found Alive - SC - HT, 4, Johns Island, 13 Feb 2018 *Arrest*
    I pray there can be a good ending in finding Cupcake alive too. But with the main suspects already arrested and her not being found yet, it is looking grim. Only slim hope is if they handed her off to someone who is keeping her alive.
    :(

    MOO.
     
  5. MsBetsy

    MsBetsy Well-Known Member

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    Me too! But then I saw that her arms were out to the side. Maybe that's one of the poses they have people do for their picture. Idk.
     
  6. GoBuckeyes

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    I misread. Sorry. She is accused of kidnapping her 3 kids last year, one of them was 2 yrs old. I thought there was a connection. Sorry.
     
  7. MassGuy

    MassGuy The Monsters Aren’t The Ones Beneath The Bed

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    This is where I’m at right now.

    These two were identified as POI’s, based on witness statements and surveillance video.

    When law enforcement made contact with them, they discovered child pornography related to PS, and a previous kidnapping charge in relation to DB.

    There’s no way that’s a coincidence and they happened upon the wrong suspects.

    Now, had Cupcake been handed off to a third party, I can’t fathom a scenario where one of the suspects doesn’t reveal who that person is. The clock is ticking, and things can only get worse.

    Therefore, I don’t believe she was handed off, and even that scenario would be incredibly unusual in and of itself.

    Men who kidnap little girls tend to be pedophiles, and pedophiles tend to collect and distribute child pornography.

    This guy checks both boxes.

    I think these two know exactly where Cupcake is, and they aren’t revealing that because the truth is far worse than feigning ignorance.
     
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  8. Asme27

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    Oh, this is not good at all :(. Even if she’s found alive it’s been 48 hours since she was kidnapped- that’s way too much time for her to be have been with these sick people and anyone these sick people could have handed her off too.
     
  9. margarita25

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    Agree.
     
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    Gardener1850 Timeline Guru (Still Remembering Cupcake)

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    I wondered that too. Maybe the child said she was wearing white (as in clothes) and it got misunderstood as she was white (as in race). Another thought is she could have had a blonde wig on and maybe the child witness only saw her hair from behind and assumed it was a white woman due to her hair. MOO.
     
  11. Andreee

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    Yes, that could very well be the case.
     
  12. iQuill

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    I wonder when we’ll hear something about any evidence in the Toyota. If there is evidence of Cupcake having been in that vehicle... it does give LE some leverage... where is Cupcake?
     
  13. margarita25

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    Dear God. Just stopped crying. Going in for PC.
     
  14. Steelslady

    Steelslady Justice for Kelsey

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    Oooohhhh, I see where this lady had gone with her "boyfriend" to Alabama. She was close to her family, but when she "allegedly" returned and went to the police station to tell them she was no longer missing, she didn't contact her family after. I am still reading up on that thread, but that alone made the hairs on my neck stand up!
     
  15. diggndeeperstill

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    Since the beginning I thought love triangle, real father drama. And I think the part of me that’s new to following these cases wants to believe that. Then I convince myself that maybe, just maybe, someone else is/was trying to retaliate against our two suspects and set them up and Cupcake is safe.

    Then... the realist that values opinions of many here, and the realist who read in horror about Maleah Davis, and Makenzie Lueck, I am starting to feel really, really sick.. and sad.
     
  16. Asme27

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    Anyone have the police scanner again for this area? I can’t remember the page number.....
     
  17. Lillymac

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    I agree and it's so frustrating. LE should have answers they need or at least some of them. Maybe they do are just holding on to it to prevent others from running. The PC's they've had just lead to more questions and suppositions. Something's amiss here. jmo
     
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  18. MassGuy

    MassGuy The Monsters Aren’t The Ones Beneath The Bed

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    This case has enough variables that there are still realistic scenarios that have the potential to result in a positive outcome.

    But as time goes on, and the facts trickle out, this is looking more and more to me like a sexually motivated abduction.

    It’s weird that a woman would be involved in that, but that is basically cancelled out by this woman’s background. She seems to be the type of person to go along with something like this.
     
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    If they handed her off (as we all hope) they need to find her fast, If these two thugs are any indication of the people she was handed to she is in real trouble.
     
  20. Simply Southern

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    Been waiting on your analysis. Its always so rational.

    Imho...
     
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