Found Deceased AL- Kamille "Cupcake" McKinney, 3, kidnapped from birthday party, Birmingham, 12 Oct 2019

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  1. PixieStix

    PixieStix Well-Known Member

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    Unfortunately, I agree with this 100%. I really want to hold out hope and I will but sadly if I am being logical and not emotional I fear this is the case.
     
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  2. PommyMommy

    PommyMommy #ShinelikeShanann

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    It's been 72 hours now. :(
     
  3. Steelslady

    Steelslady Justice for Kelsey

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    The description that went out on the amber alert was a white female and a black male. So now I'm confused.[/QUOTE]
    Another face I hate seeing right now along with her disgusting boyfriend. Add that to my photos from hell to look- Kelsey and PF's included.
     
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  4. MizStery

    MizStery Missing Pregnant Lacy P. brought me here in 2005

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    GoBuckeyes I hope these quotes show the conversation between MassGuy and myself it clarifies that it’s Derick Irisha Brown that had lost custody of her children and crashed her car fleeing with them.

     
  5. Steelslady

    Steelslady Justice for Kelsey

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    This community reminds me of the Lucas Hernandez case- sadly, we don't have the locals on this thread that we were blessed with in Lucas' case thread, but this community is amazing as well. It is wonderful to see.
     
  6. PommyMommy

    PommyMommy #ShinelikeShanann

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    I still have some hesitation over the possible scenarios. Unless one of the persons in custody was obsessed with Cupcake, why would either take such a high risk by kidnapping a toddler? If the intent was to create child porn why wouldn't they seek out an easier target? For example, they surely could find some methed up mother who would gladly "rent" out their child for money or drugs. Or do what so many molesters do and covertly victimize relatives and/or the children of friends. We see all this in the threads here.

    Instead they snatch a kid in view of at least one witness who was able to give a description and they do nothing to hide themselves or their whereabouts. Yeah, they could just be really stupid but if PS has a collection of porn on his phone he's got some experience.

    And what were they expecting to do with Cupcake after? Raise her? She's a hot potato so who's going to take the risk of taking care of her?

    Something feels off to me. MOO.

    Oh, also, has there been any mention in msm about connections between the POIs and Tom Brown Village? Just curious.
     
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  9. Gardener1850

    Gardener1850 Timeline Guru (Still Remembering Cupcake)

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    Yep, I saw that. I don't want to speculate too far without a connection between them, but the name Stallsworth and the AL boyfriend story made me wonder if it was really Calandra that went to the police to say she wasn't missing because she had been in AL. This Derick woman who is now associated with PS could have passed for Calandra with CS's ID but when I looked at their photos side by side it was clear they are not the same woman (face shape and chin shape are the same but noses are different). Not sure if police would fingerprint or take DNA of an adult who claims they were voluntary missing for only a few days. I've only seen LE take DNA in cold cases where someone claims to be a missing child. MOO.
     
  10. SAMS

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    Yes. Certainly not unheard of....Jaycee Dugard, Elizabeth Smart, Colleen Stan, just to name a few....definitely not the norm though.....MOO
     
  11. 10ofRods

    10ofRods Verified Anthropologist

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    So, the two are in custody, for child porn, right? No charges for kidnapping yet?

    Can someone provide a really quick summary. Neither of these two is known to Cupcake's family, right?
     
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  12. MsBetsy

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    I wonder if investigators told them they might offer a deal that would have resulted in lesser charges, and they either did not talk or they do not know where she is.

    Or they did something far worse, and are not going to admit to anything.

    Imo
     
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    You mean the regular police scanner thread here on WS? I don't believe there is a separate scanner thread for this case. It was all on the regular thread. Should be the last page unless there's been a lot of scanner activity from other cases in the last 48 hours. Direct links for Birminghams scanner on broadcastify should be there as well (I forget the county name but it's there, direct link)
     
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    I really want a happy ending for this beautiful little baby. Her pictures are breaking my heart, she’s so so happy. I hope we can all see that precious smile again.
     
  16. FlamingoLady

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    It's unknown if these two know her family.
    The man was arrested on child porn (unrelated to Kamille)
    Woman arrested on parole violation from when she kidnapped her own kids a year or so ago.
     
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    Would an 11 year old living where Cupcake was kidnapped have a cell phone? Im not sure...finances and all. But kids love to take random pics.
     
  18. SAMS

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    2 people questioned in Birmingham 3-year-old’s abduction facing unrelated charges



    “The State has learned that during the course of being questioned on an unrelated matter, the Defendant admitted to the Birmingham Police Department that she made efforts to contact victims and/or witness in the case in violation of the conditions of the Defendant’s bond,” Allen stated."


    Okay, now it makes sense, how they arrested her for probation violation. What do these two know? Ugh. It's killing me.
     
  19. MassGuy

    MassGuy The Monsters Aren’t The Ones Beneath The Bed

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    True. The key difference here is you’re talking about a 3-year-old, and not a preteen/teen girl.

    Typically in a situation like that, you find the perpetrators, you find the victim.

    The fact that it does appear that law enforcement has the right people, makes the safe return of Cupcake looking like it would take a miracle.
     
  20. Steelslady

    Steelslady Justice for Kelsey

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    I brought up the Lucas Hernandez case earlier- remember when Emily was in jail for a different charge that they held her on? She was in there for a month or so, for an unrelated charge to Lucas' disappearance. That's what I think is happening here, too. I think they are keeping them for as long as they can on other charges until they get the whole enchilada. Smart move on LE's part.

    Oh and dummy me just realized that I have quoted my own post above- I was trying to answer someone's reply to mine, not sure how this happened?!?!? I swear, I've only had coffee and electrolyte water to drink........
     
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