Found Deceased AL - Paighton Houston, 29, left bar with 2 men, Birmingham, 20 Dec 2019 #2

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  1. BlinkOfAnI

    BlinkOfAnI Well-Known Member

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    Just something I noticed.Chapel isn't a very long street and dead ends.
     


  2. C.Cato

    C.Cato Active Member

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    Wow, thank u so very much. Its something that took me a long time to talk about. But as I see more and more crimes committed such as with Ph, it strikes home because watching my mother and father bury a child was something I swore I could never live through. My daughters can sympathize now why I was the protective mother I was, and still am to this day. We buried him in 1998 but we still feel the pain today. You never recover, yiu just learn to live with it. And unfortunately I'm sure that will be the case with PH family. It's just so sad we live in the world we live in. Thank u again truly for your sentiment.
     
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  3. MassGuy

    MassGuy The Monsters Aren’t The Ones Beneath The Bed

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    The problem with looking at jail bookings for homicide, is that Birmingham has a high number of murders (117 in 2017, 107 in 2018, and 113 in 2019).

    So it probably wouldn’t be all that unusual to have a recent arrest.
     
  4. Stunned

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    WTH? I quoted him?
     
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  5. Seattle1

    Seattle1 #LiveLikeLizzy

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    LE has only confirmed that no persons matching the description of 2 black males--as allegedly seen from across the room by co-worker, not depicted on surveillance video viewed by LE.

    Does not mean that no such men exisit here, only that no such images captured on viewed surveillance video. (After K Berreth, we know that surveillance doesn't capture everything or everyone).

    Also no declaration form LE that PH was positively identified inside the Tin Roof Bar on Dec 20, 2019 whether by surveillance video or witness accounts. I personally suspect that PH never made it to the bar.

    Credit care allegation limited to social media reporting only -- never reported in MSM and therefore not discussed here on the open thread.

    MOO
     
  6. chili367

    chili367 Well-Known Member

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    I've felt this way for a while but I think we need a plan to get @Falcon500 and @Angleterre to meet up. Seems like two folks with a lot in common.
     
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  7. JaxFlaGal

    JaxFlaGal Well-Known Member

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    Very shortly after the local sheriff's office rep stated "death investigation" on a news feed this afternoon I recall a journalist on that feed (can't recall which of the local AL news stations I was watching, sorry) say that it was quite normal for them to use the wording "death investigation" at this point, versus homicide or homicide investigation.
     
  8. chili367

    chili367 Well-Known Member

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    Likely the Occam's Razor explantation is what happened but it wouldn't surprise me if she was never at that club. JMHO, MOO, etc. from an admitted amateur. Thank you for your insight on all of the cases you chime in on, Falcon500. It is appreciated.
     
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  9. carbuff

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    I would not rule out that she was roofied, either.
     
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  10. Seattle1

    Seattle1 #LiveLikeLizzy

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    ^^sbm

    Or two or ten...
     
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  11. BlinkOfAnI

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    I would imagine it is different in every area. In my area if your a 1st time felony offender you are offered free treatment at a CBCF. Our CBCF was better than any private facility and had lower recidivism rates. It's frustrating when a parent calls begging to get their adult child in for help and you have to say no because they haven't committed a felony. MOO
     
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  12. SaucyWalker

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    True, true. But the ones listed on that page all have been arrested (or re-arrested) today, 1-3-2020.
     
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    I find it amazing that in MSM I , we, know the street but now, she's found its stripped. <modsnip>
     
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  14. sillybilly

    sillybilly Administrator Staff Member Administrator Moderator

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    FYI, the address was removed by me before the body was found.
     
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  15. Elle*Bee

    Elle*Bee We're all just stories in the end.

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    I’m not sure whether Cato replied, but I know Louisiana has a state penitentiary named Angola. That’s a possibility.
     
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  16. Seattle1

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    I see this as it went from a missing person investigation to a death investigation when PH was confirmed deceased. I believe we are still waiting on a statement from ME's office for the manner of death i.e., homicide. MOO
     
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    Oh man, I hadn't checked WS since yesterday morning and logged on about an hour ago to see if there were any updates....

    So sad. I hate it for her family and I'm interested to see how this all unfolds from LE.
     
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    The body being wrapped and buried also tends to veer away from a panic scenario and move it more into the realm of a cover-up.
     
  19. Elle*Bee

    Elle*Bee We're all just stories in the end.

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    This is an awesome sleuthing site. Sometimes we have to wait a bit longer before we can discuss certain information that we ‘know’ is true. That slight delay is the price we pay for not having to sort through pages and pages of unsubstantiated rumor and “I saw on Reddit...”posts. Sure a few of those sneak by, but it’s not the norm.

    (Edited to add: I see admin responded that the address was removed from the post BEFORE MSM reported it.)

    See, I’m old (903 years old). I remember the days when reporters fact checked items, personally interviewed sources. The emphasis was on publishing an accurate account of events. Today, the focus is on being first. Publish the article and fact check after. Or better yet, let the reader fact check for you. Being first with the information is only as useful as the accuracy of said information. Stepping off my soapbox now...
     
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  20. carbuff

    carbuff Well-Known Member

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    At this point I would be most suspicious of the ones that seem to have been pulled in for things like probation violation. That's a common LE ploy for getting a suspect into custody while they build the case for the new offenses.
     
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