Found Deceased AL - Paighton Houston, 29, left bar with 2 men, Birmingham, 20 Dec 2019 #4

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  1. mickey2942

    mickey2942 Well-Known Member

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    No, but the paraphernalia used, spoon, syringe, would have prints or touch DNA.
     
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    Addiction (to anything) does not discriminate. I have firsthand experience with this and know that there are others here who do as well. I know PH was a recovering addict. I’m just not buying that her addiction had anything to do with this-yet. Something seems off about it.
     
  3. Aurea

    Aurea On Time Out

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    I have no idea who Grace is but I am not on social media. Going to talk to attorney friend in Shelby County but I'm not a repeater. This is horrible.
     
  4. Seajay

    Seajay Never pass up an opportunity to pee.

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    There are definitely, higher classed addicts then the ones everyone thinks of in crack houses. Doctors daughters, CEOs daughters. They don’t hang with the dangerous people, they hang with friends they get high with and do drugs with. I know lots of them.

    I know saying a “higher class addict” sounds like an oxymoron but think about the celebrities who have had addiction issues. They have money and can get whatever they want in the way of drugs, and they do their drugs in their mansions. IME
     
  5. Seajay

    Seajay Never pass up an opportunity to pee.

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    Does anyone know how much clean time PH had? And were there any reports of her drinking or intoxicated at the Tin Roof that night? Just wondering. Goes to her frame off mind.
     
  6. Beth11311

    Beth11311 Well-Known Member

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    Some drugs would. Black tar heroin is sticky and if some were left behind (unlikely) then I absolutely think you could get touch DNA from it. Otherwise the baggies, balloons, spoons, syringes, all the paraphernalia will have it.
     
  7. margarita25

    margarita25 Keep on rockin’ in the free world

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    Someone had mentioned upstream LE finding her body the night before then coming back the next day to do the exhumation. Do we know this to be the case for certain? Tia, still behind.
     
  8. Beth11311

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    I don’t think we really have any confirmation on clean time. We know when her article was shared from the place she got sober, but I don’t believe we have had any confirmation on whether she was truly sober, or just not using heroin. If she was indeed going to a bar for drinks (which I take to mean alcohol), then we know she was no longer clean.

    ETA: none of which means she deserved to die, obviously. It only makes sense to wonder if she had been drinking as it was reported she “went to a bar for drinks”. The delayed COD again opens the door to some sort of toxicology finding. It is only natural to wonder if her past (or current, we really don’t know) addiction history came into play.
     
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    That is one of the dirty secrete reasons medical insurance has increased so much since the 1970s - rehab for corporate executives' family members. MOO
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  10. Beth11311

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    I 100% agree. I was cautious. I never ended up in a trap, or turning tricks, or arrested. I was lucky that I had a drive/work ethic that supplied the funds I needed to stay well and could afford somewhere to live. From all outward appearances, I was a normal SoCal college kid living in paradise...on the inside though, I was dead. If one could get close enough to me back then, and I’m sure it was obvious.

    That being said, when we are high/drunk whatever, our decision making is so affected, addict or not. So I can’t rule out that if she was intoxicated, that she didn’t make a bad decision. I made many, cautious and paranoid though I was.
     
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  11. Seajay

    Seajay Never pass up an opportunity to pee.

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    Exactly, no longer clean. And if she was drinking, with an addictive personality, she may have drank addictively. That’s what addicts do, cross addict. So that may have hindered her ability to realize dangers there were around her.

    I don’t know if she was clean or not, but if she was imbibing, which we don’t know, it could have affected decision making. This isn’t victim blaming, this is taking known facts of this case and applying them to scenarios that could be why she was missing and is now deceased. The fact she is deceased, so,etching went terribly wrong. IMO
     
  12. Beth11311

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    Yes and no, I’ll look for an article. But I believe that the dogs hit on a spot, and they waited until morning to dig.
     
  13. Aurea

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    That is the case as I recall. Sorry I am unlinkable.
     
  14. everybodhi

    everybodhi Verified Cosmopolitan Bias

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    I’m not ruling anything out, I don’t know what happened, there are so many possibilities and little confirmed facts, not even a time of death, which surely they know by now, and would give us something to speculate on for days.
    It looks like LE doesn’t think they need our help, I’m guessing they already know most of what happened and are just working on those involved now, and making sure they have enough evidence for convictions on whatever charges are appropriate.
     
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    Rest in Peace, Miss Paighton Houston ...I am praying for you, Young Lady
     
  16. Denniece

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    Bravo. Rest in Peace, Miss Paighton.
    Regardless of how she met her demise, she deserved much better in life, and in death. I'm just glad she was found. Wondering if your child is alive or not must be a pain like no other.
     
  17. Spartygirl

    Spartygirl Verified Insider - Michael Vanzandt case

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    I am not a fan of "Carol" right now LOL per some of her reporting on this case. JMO
     
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    Spartygirl Verified Insider - Michael Vanzandt case

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    One of my best friend's son is still missing. The wondering is a heartache that does not go away.
    so, yes, Im glad Paighton was found, for her family's sake.
     
  19. Momof4RN

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    It was publicly announced no body found. They were suspending the search and returning the next day after they secured a search warrant.
     
  20. Beth11311

    Beth11311 Well-Known Member

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    They announced that they didn’t have a body, and that it was “complicated” - which, just MOO, but I believe cadaver dogs hit on that spot, and they knew it was likely PH..so yes and no. They didn’t literally have PH, but they did.
     
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