AL AL - Titus, Fem Skeletal 663UFAL, 30-40, shallow grave, bound in green tarp, Jul'07

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  1. concernedperson

    concernedperson Former Member

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    Bumping. Any news on the remains found at Lake Jordan?
     


  2. chicoliving

    chicoliving Former Member

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    I keep looking but have found nothing.
     
  3. englishleigh

    englishleigh Authentic Southern Belle

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    Here's the local TV station website from Montgomery, AL...keep watching here for news. I looked but did not see anything on there today.

    http://wsfa.com/
     
  4. dark_shadows

    dark_shadows Former Member

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    This is heartbreaking. My good friend was murdered and found in a shallow grave. His murderer or murderers were never found.
    Every time I see the word or hear the word "shallow", I think of him. No matter how that word is used, will the pain and heartbreak ever stop? Thank-you for listening to me.
    Respectfully,
    dark_shadows
     
  5. TallCoolOne

    TallCoolOne Registered Lurker

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    dark_shadows, I am so very sorry to know this. I can't imagine how that would absolutely haunt you. And to know that the person/people responsible were never brought to justice makes it even more so.


    Salem, are you perhaps making reference to Lisa Stebic, missing from Plainfield, IL since May?
     
  6. Angie4b1g

    Angie4b1g Active Member

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    At least 5 years, wow. Hopefully we can find out who this person was and give her family the peace they've been seeking.
     
  7. SewingDeb

    SewingDeb "Sorry, I'm not qualified to land the plane."

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    I'm so sorry to here about your friend, Dark Shadows.
     
  8. MagicRose99

    MagicRose99 Watch out for my thorns!

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    This is the latest article I can find... it's dated 7/27

    <snip>
    “Forensic pathologists are telling us it is not likely the remains of Tracy Kegley,” Franklin pointed out. “There are a few inconsistencies found with this body that were not consistent with that of Ms. Kegley.”

    The National Crime Information Center currently has seven missing persons from Elmore County in its system, Franklin said.

    “We have eliminated all but one of those persons,” he said.

    “After this, we can confirm whether or not it is someone from our county.”

    Franklin did say forensic pathologists believe the remains are those of a white female between the ages of 30 and 40, and of average height.

    http://www.thewetumpkaherald.com/articles/2007/07/27/news/news02.txt
     
  9. AdoraBlue

    AdoraBlue I've been known to be a little too "woo-woo."

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  10. ocean

    ocean New Member

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    is there any mention tod. of the remains? I know it said a long time....months or years?
     
  11. chicoliving

    chicoliving Former Member

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    It looks like the body had been in the grave for at least five years, Franklin pointed out.

    &#8220;More than likely it happened after 1991 because the landowner was not a permanent resident of the home on the property after that time,&#8221; Franklin said. &#8220;The yard was overgrown and leaves were covering up the yard. When the landowner started doing yard work, he noticed a piece of tarp and pulled on it. That&#8217;s when he discovered the remains.&#8221;

    http://www.thewetumpkaherald.com/articles/2007/07/27/news/news02.txt

    TY MagicRose!!
     
  12. ocean

    ocean New Member

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    thankyou CL
     
  13. MagicRose99

    MagicRose99 Watch out for my thorns!

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    You're welcome! Just wish there was a more up-to-date article for us...
     
  14. chicoliving

    chicoliving Former Member

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    I know! One of the first reports sounded like an ID via dentals was forthcoming....kinda wondered about that, like how could they be so sure that there would be an ID so soon? Just because there are dental records to compare to this poor woman didn't mean that there would necessarily be a match. Now, without any new info it looks like there was no match to dentals on record of missing women in the area.
     
  15. dark_shadows

    dark_shadows Former Member

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    Dear TallCoolOne,:blowkiss:
    I appreciate your post very much, thank-you.
    Much Love and Respect,
    dark_shadows
     
  16. KR2tonenow

    KR2tonenow New Member

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    Is there any indication as to why there are so many missing persons in that area?
     
  17. dark_shadows

    dark_shadows Former Member

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    To very dear SewingDeb,:angel:
    I thank-you with all of my heart for your post.
    So much Love and Respect to you,
    dark_shadows
     
  18. chicoliving

    chicoliving Former Member

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    ~snip~

    This week after 5 months worth of testing LSU pathologists in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, completed their 20-page report. First, the bad news for Elmore County detectives.

    "They couldn't identify the remains," Franklin said.

    But homicide investigators have at least an idea the remains are those of a female.

    "We now know she was between 5'2" and 5'7". Still don't know if she was white, black or native American. The pathologists do believe she had been buried there anywhere from 3 months prior to the bones being found and 4 years," said Franklin.

    http://www.wsfa.com/Global/story.asp?S=7521336
     
  19. future criminologist

    future criminologist Active Member

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    ok folks, here's a new UID that was just posted to the Doe site. with the fabulous computer reconstruction and details on the skeletal features, it should be fairly solvable.

    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/653ufal.html

    Doe Network ID: 653UFAL

    Unidentified Female


    The victim was discovered on August 8, 2007 in Autauga County, Alabama
    Estimated Date of Death: 3 Months - 4 Years
    State of Remains: Partial Skeleton

    Vital Statistics

    Estimated age: 30-40 years old
    Approximate Height and Weight: 5' 3" - 5' 5".
    Distinguishing Characteristics: Possibly black; has a mixture of race characteristics, therefore, cannot rule out white, hispanic or native american; short, coarse, dark brown hair. Previously injured nose and sternum/left ribs.
    Skeletal Findings: Healed trauma to the nose; between the 3rd & 4th costal notches (sternal body) and left ribs #3,5 & 6. Separation of sternal body between the 4th and 5th costal notches, no callus noted. Improperly healed trauma noted.
    Clothing: Clothing not sent to FACES Lab
    Fingerprints: Not Available
    Dentals: Available; porcelain crown noted on tooth #23. Amalgam fillings noted on teeth #3(OL), 5(O), 14(OL), 19(OM) and 18(O). Teeth #1,16 & 32 not seen, may be antemortem loss or congenital absence.
    DNA: Samples submitted - tests not complete


    Case History
    The victim was found near the Coosa River in Autauga County, Alabama on August 8, 2007.
     
  20. future criminologist

    future criminologist Active Member

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    ok - got my first possible match:

    Tiffany Marche Phelps

    http://www.nampn.org/cases/phelps_tiffany.html

    Tiffany's eyes are a little farther apart than the UID's, but it's the closest match I've found so far - everything else fits.

    we are looking for someone that likely went missing between 2003 and 2007.
     

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