Allison Baden-Clay, GENERAL CASE DISCUSSION THREAD -#31

Discussion in 'Allison Baden-Clay General Discussion Threads' started by SoSueMe, May 18, 2012.

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  1. Elspeth

    Elspeth New Member

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    Did Allison have a phobia of the water?...Was not aware of this...
     


  2. marlywings

    marlywings Former Member

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    Oooh thanks for this report whitechapel....it may explain the need for 11111 ...........

    And why flight isn't possible....
     
  3. Greg

    Greg New Member

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    Save her own arse more like it
     
  4. J-Diggety

    J-Diggety New Member

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    Absolutely, hence why i added 'if true'

    A good timely reminder though
     
  5. possumheart

    possumheart Well-Known Member

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    She did.
     
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    possumheart Well-Known Member

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    She would not let go of the edge.
     
  8. Rational

    Rational Former Member

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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Hawkins
    Do not friggin start me. The objectification of women is a vestigial sociological imperative that is well past its use-by-date. Women have been commodities in the physical, emotional and spiritual sense for many thousands of years. Very few people really appreciate the depth to which these subservient roles are ingrained. Violence towards women is still at epidemic levels in our community and this violence is not specific to any demographic. The levels of child sex abuse, especially against girls is a national disgrace. Emotional violence and intimidation starts from a very young age and many, many men humiliate their wives and female relatives without any sense that they are doing so. Any man who thinks that Australia is a society which has turned the corner and which provides equal expectations and opportunities for women should experience life from a woman's perspective for a while. Boys need to be exposed to male role models who treat women as human beings, not as some other species who they should look after and 'respect'. Respect is a human right, not a right that you get by being a woman. Women are not furniture, they are not fashion accessories, they are not property, they are not investments. They are not cute things that you have a duty to look after like a pet. Violence against, and the objectification of, women is a deep social problem that is only vaguely recognised and addressed despite ridiculous claims that women are now somehow mostly 'equal'. If Mrs Baden Clay has died as the result of domestic or partner violence then hopefully the result will be something more than a shallow sense of satisfaction that her 'killer' is broughtto justice. All men need to look at their own hearts and their own values and ask what their potential is to act in the same way as her killer(s). We should all look at her death and ask how we collectively failed her and what we can do to empower our daughters to ensure that they do not suffer a similar fate. I am a man.


    I think this was one of the best of Hawkins earlier posts and relates very much to Grannie's suggestion and Fuskier's subsequent comment.
     
  9. JK673

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    Haha very true...
     
  10. JK673

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    I just remember the main number at headquarters (33646464) and they patch you through to the local one, especially if the local one shuts at 4pm everyday and a bigger main Cop Shop takes over for night duties.
     
  11. Rational

    Rational Former Member

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    Oh Possumheart it was sad enough now I feel even worse. Allison ending up in water, her worst nightmare on top of the living hell of being with GBC.
    iMO
     
  12. Mani

    Mani New Member

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    or that of her husbands? MOO
     
  13. MaxwellSmart

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    There are too many "issues" to find a simple solution - one size fits all. While not a victim of domestic abuse myself, i do find some of my husband's conversations are conducted in a disrespectful manner and that his own inadequacies colour his tone. I see how HIS father speaks to his wife and realise that it is self-perpetuating through generations. It takes a strong woman to express her feelings about being spoken down to and accepting behaviour that is less than respectful.

    This then I believe is the key to reducing domestic abuse in the future - the generations to come, our children, need to be taught the meaning of respect and acceptable behaviour. This I feel lands significantly at the feet of the mothers. I hope that my son's future behaviour is respectful, helpful and polite, and that my daughter is able to be friends with men who are nothing less than respectful of woman. A hard ask, but just like manners, grammar, habits etc, it is a never-ending task that becomes automatic.

    I was listening to an interview on today's ABC Radio Cairns (for the life of me can find it on the website!!) about what it means to be a man. In past generations knowledge was handed down, but in this generation we are lacking "mentors" and this has lead to a breakdown in acceptable behaviours and control of risk-taking behaviours in teen boys. They look to each other to validate there behaviour. Don't know where this is going........ anyone???...

    thanks for the welcome - thought I had it bad as a lurker but now I am participating...oh dear...... anyone for baked beans on toast for dinner?!:blushing:
     
  14. Flinders

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    The first pictures of flower tributes I saw on the fence at Allison's house was a picture of flowers and white ribbons as well. I have the picture but need help on how to attach or imbed a picture on a post:please:

    The significance of the white ribbon is

    White Ribbon is an organisation that is working to prevent the most common and pervasive form of male violence – that towards women. All forms of violence are unacceptable. White Ribbon believes the prevention of violence against women will change society for the better.
    This the website where men pledge not to commit Dv
    http://www.whiteribbon.org.au/what-is-white-ribbon

    I am not alleging any BC is guilty of this. Maybe who ever put the white ribbons on the fence knows. As maybe some of the residents of Brookfield knew about his affairs.

    RIP Allison.
     
  15. Mani

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    Wow BJS - I haven't heard that term before but boy do I know some gfs who have succumbed to this sort of manipulative BS before leaving their partners.
    Very interesting. Thanks for the article. :)
     
  16. kiwi50

    kiwi50 Well-Known Member

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    I'm going to be in Mooloolaba in 2 weeks time.
    Are the Eumundi markets on Wednesday's worth going to, if I can brave the killer caterpillars and leave our apartment?
    I need to find something to do if my net access is limited.
     
  17. Rational

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    I accept that you heard this but it doesn't make sense. It would mean that she would know that GBC is guilty and has done a deal for her own bacon, but how then do you reconcile that with them proclaiming his innocence?

    Alternatively if it is true that may explain why OW is doing all the court dealings and fund raising, and why NBC is trying to get to see GBC in person to say why his mum had to save both their @rses as Greg suggested.'we are doing everything to get you out of here, but no good all three of us going down son..!'

    What a f upped family!!
    IMO
     
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    :tyou: Maxwell, and welcome! you're going to like it here.

    I agree. The bottom line is RESPECT, something my partner and I value greatly, and strive to hand down to our children. Without it, I'm afraid mades bad things happen to good people.
     
  19. Flinders

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    http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/al...rged-with-murder/story-e6frf7jo-1226394768364

    Link to picture of white ribbons that I've found
    Link to white ribbons picture
     
  20. ollijack

    ollijack Active Member

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    The post by Hawkins is amazing. Thankyou for reposting. Xxxx
     
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