Allison Baden-Clay - GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD #44

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  1. linette

    linette New Member

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    Sooooo.... if the girls WEREN'T home then maybe OW brought them back to their home early and that's why she was there? They had to pretend the girls were there ... I mean, how could he possibly kill Allison if the girls were home all night? IYKWIM?

    Who knows what to believe?

    And in that case the girls would know they weren't home? ARGHH! So hard to figure out.
     


  2. squizzey1

    squizzey1 Verified insider - Allison Baden-Clay case

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    He wouldnt care enough to lower her down . That would be showing some sort of care or feeling for her . No, just chuck her over, if that is in fact what happened
     
  3. Makara

    Makara Former Member

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    According to the attached tide chart, high tide at Kholo Creek was at 11:32pm at a height of 2.3 m.

    Tide-Times-19th-April.jpg
     
  4. squizzey1

    squizzey1 Verified insider - Allison Baden-Clay case

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    I always thought the girls WEREN'T home but that has been contradicted a million times on here so dont know either way. Just can't see him killing her there if they were home and then nothing said to anyone by the girls:banghead::banghead:
     
  5. squizzey1

    squizzey1 Verified insider - Allison Baden-Clay case

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    That makes sense, as most of your stuff does , 10 m difference between tides , and someone dropped 7 feet into mud would be far less to break bones etc :please:
     
  6. linette

    linette New Member

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    That's what I mean. It makes far more sense that they weren't home... but the truth would have to come out. It's not like they are babies and don't know where they were that night. Makes sense if they were elsewhere, that's why they didn't hear the screams etc. And I think GBC & Allison would be more likely to have a fight like that if they weren't home?

    Just because he sent texts to her saying he was getting them ready doesn't mean anything... he knew Allison was never going to crontradict him.
     
  7. squizzey1

    squizzey1 Verified insider - Allison Baden-Clay case

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    I agree entirely , if he killed her at home or she even screamed they would have told people for sure , but why does everyone on here say they were home , have I missed something ?????
     
  8. Phantom's Diana

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    He wouldn't want he to float out to sea and never be found - he'd have to wait 7 years to claim on insurance - by lowering her down and dropping her under the bridge she eventually be found - thus he would be able to claim on het insurance - which of course we all know he did - even before confirmation was announced!
     
  9. LadyBird1

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    Oh I know what you mean now! Fake the whole thing about "none of the girls are up yet."
    Possible.
    However unpalatable as is; it is also quite possible that the girls were home and heard it all. Slept in fear of their lives. And were later debriefed.
    It would not be the first time this dreadful scenario has played out.

    There was a poster on the other site who cited such a case back on the day GBC was arrested. The children heard all, as their father beat their mother to death. They then had to live with guilt, shame and pain all their lives. Ended up messed up in the mind, as were their children. Their murdering father got off scott free. Forgot to mention, they were not questioned by police. They were minors.
     
  10. Couldbe

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    http://aww.ninemsn.com.au/news/news...n-baden-clay-the-murder-that-rocked-australia :
    But in an affidavit Baden-Clay tendered to the court, he said he sent two early-morning text messages to his wife soon after he woke on the day she disappeared, asking where she was.

    The first read: "Good morning! Hope you slept well? Where are you? None of the girls are up yet! Love G." The second read; "All, getting concerned. Where are you? The app doesn't say either. (two children) are up now. I'm dressed and about to make lunches. Please just text me or call! Love G".

    ............ if GBC is to be believed ... this is what his text messages said.
     
  11. Phantom's Diana

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    Sorry where do you get 7 feet from ? They had to lower the QPS to retrieve Alison's body 14 m . Was it only 7 feet from where she lay to top of bridge height?
     
  12. LadyBird1

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    .............If GBC is to be believed........!!!
     
  13. linette

    linette New Member

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    That is horrible. OMG, let's hope nothing like that happened in this case. As it is now they're going to have a lot of baggage growing up...
     
  14. Anonthemouse

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    There's a lot of twists and turns in the Brisbane river before the sea and even then, Moreton Bay is a pretty busy waterway. The body would have floated and been found way before then IMO
     
  15. squizzey1

    squizzey1 Verified insider - Allison Baden-Clay case

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    do we believe anything he says:banghead:
     
  16. Makara

    Makara Former Member

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    Another post of interest from BrookieLocal. I think it has been established from the police affidavit's that there was not a lawyer present on the morning of the 20 April. The fact of whether the girls were at home on the Thursday night has always been a bit of a mystery. IMO the girls had a sleepover at Nigelaine's on the Thursday night, spending time with their Walton cousins. We now know that a sleepover was organised at the Brookfield house on the Friday night with the Walton cousins but sadly that never happened.

    It makes sense to me that the girls did spend the night at the BC house. TM stated that she was speaking to GBC on the phone on the Thursday evening as he was on his way to his parent's place, he having bought sausages on the way, probably for a family barbecue. Allison had an early start the following morning and it would have been convenient for the girls to stay with the BC's and for Olivia to drop them home before school in the morning. I personally don't think that the sleepover was organised to remove the girls from the house so that GBC could murder Allison. I think the fact that they weren't there allowed him to vent his full rage on Allison. There was no one else there to see him or to stop what he was doing.

    BrookieLocal
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    The middle B-C child was very much a mummy's girl, very clingy to Allison, today must have been very hard for all 3 girls.

    I was told today that cause of death is definitely strangulation and unless toxicology reports provide some physical evidence it may be a while before an arrest is made as most evidence is circumstantial.

    We've been discussing what information could have triggered police to act so quickly - I was told that GB-C's lawyer was at the house when police arrived! GB-C told police that the kids were at home that night and one of the children said they weren't.

    BBM:


    [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=7903531&postcount=505"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - Australia - Allison Baden-Clay, 43, Brisbane QLD, 19 April 2012 - #6[/ame]
     
  17. Mountain Misst

    Mountain Misst FA in Aus.

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    BBM

    Sorry to be the fly in the ointment CC, however when you get to check GBC's own mobile number call log, you will note that he rang that number 0439820631 on at least 2 occasions and I doubt he rang himself - see #273 at 9.52am 20/4 and #325 7.29pm.

    It's obviously an important enough number judging by the number of times that it was rung, but it seems not GBC. If the phone number belongs to the family as you suggest, I'm guessing that it could be a mother checking on her little ones, then a father on 20/4, then a grandmother - EBC rang it also #64,#65 on 22/4.

    Oh and by the way, the number 07 38590200 is listed as the fax number of the C21 Taringa office according to REIQ.
    http://www.reiq.com/AgencyDetails.aspx?acid=949
     
  18. Anonthemouse

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    Had a head on accident - us in car vs motorcyclist (with no helmet) who was extremely intoxicated. He was discharged from hospital the next morning with nothing more than a few bruises..
     
  19. squizzey1

    squizzey1 Verified insider - Allison Baden-Clay case

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    sorry I was thinking 2 .something metres from the bridge . well how did he get Al's body down 14 metres , thats a long way
     
  20. linette

    linette New Member

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    Hard to even imagine believing a thing he says... but he's saying the girls were there that night and the BC's obviously aren't saying any different.

    Surely someone has asked the girls where they were? Even if they weren't questioned they would have spoken to someone about what happened that night.
    Maybe that's something we will find out later??
     
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