Ambrose, Edith Age: 99; died 1997

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    tifflee New Member

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    There are conflicting birth years and death dates between SSDI and CDI.

    "United States Social Security Death Index," Edith M Ambrose, 1997
    First Name: Edith
    Middle Name: M
    Last Name: Ambrose
    Name Suffix:
    Birth Date: 12 August 1905
    Social Security Number: 548-44-9499
    Place of Issuance: California
    Last Residence: San Bernardino, California
    Zip Code of Last Residence: 92404
    Death Date: 26 February 1997
    Estimated Age at Death: 92

    "California, Death Index, 1940-1997," Edith Ambrose, 1997
    Name: Edith Ambrose
    Event: Death
    Event Date: 16 Feb 1997
    Event Place: San Bernardino, California, United States
    Birth Date: 12 Aug 1897
    Birthplace: California
    Gender: Female
    Father:
    Mother:

    Previous Ancestry.com unclaimed persons information posting went by the CDI dates: Link here.
     
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    Using the birth date from SSDI, I found an Edith Marie Ambrose coming to California from Mexico in 1948.

    Border Crossings: From Mexico to U.S., 1895-1957 about Edith Mary Ambrose
    Name: Edith Mary Ambrose
    Arrival Date: 5 Apr 1948
    Port of Arrival: San Ysidro, California, United States
    Arrival Contact: Sister Beatriz May Bingeroer
    Departure Contact: Father Frederick Ambrose
    Age: 42
    Birth Date: 12 Aug 1905
    Birth Location: Mortlake Sry
    Gender: Female
    Race/Nationality: English
    Record has photo?: No
    Record Type: Cards
     
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    Edith Mary Ambrose
    Birth 12 Aug 1905 in Surrey, England, United Kingdom
    Death 26 Feb 1997 in San Bernardino, San Bernardino, California, United States of Americaons

    1905
    12 Aug
    Birth
    Surrey, England, United Kingdom

    7 source citations
    1928
    9 Nov
    Age: 23
    Arrival
    New York, New York
    1 source citation

    1928
    Age: 23
    Residence
    England
    1 source citation

    1948
    5 Apr
    Age: 42
    Arrival
    San Ysidro
    1 source citation

    1956
    4 Oct
    Age: 51
    Arrival
    Southampton, England
    1 source citation

    1993
    Age: 88
    Residence
    Yucca Valley, CA
    1 source citation

    1997
    26 Feb
    Age: 91
    Death
    San Bernardino, San Bernardino, California, United States of America
    http://www.unclaimedpersons.com/Coroner_Public_Details.asp?Coroner_IndigentsPage=3&ItemNo=42
     
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    Name: Edith Mary Ambrose
    Arrival Date: 9 Nov 1928
    Birth Year: abt 1905
    Birth Location: England
    Birth Location Other: london
    Age: 23
    Gender: Female
    Ethnicity/Race*/Nationality: English
    Port of Departure: Southampton, England
    Port of Arrival: New York, New York
    Ship Name: Homeric
    Search Ship Database:
     
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    Edith Mary Ambrose
    Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1915
    Registration district: Richmond
    Inferred County: Surrey
    Volume: 2a
    Page: 536 (click to see others on page)
     
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    Edith Ambrose
    Birth Date: 12 Aug 1905
    Address: 54999 Martinez Trl Spc 71, Yucca Valley, CA, 92284-8423

    This is address where she died:
    Edith Ambrose
    Birth Date: 12 Aug 1905
    Address: 1850 N Waterman Ave, San Bernardino, CA, 92404-4831
     
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    Name: Edith Mary Ambrose
    Birth Date: 12 Aug 1905
    Age at event: 48
    Court District: California
    Date of Action: 29 Jul 1954
     
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    Father was Fredrick Ambrose born 1880 in England I believe

    Mother: Just listed as Mayo

    Sister: Beatrice Ambrose

    So, now the trick is to find distant relatives. nm
     
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    tifflee New Member

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    Wow, what a journey for Ms. Ambrose!

    Awesome job tracking that all down, Nemo's Mom and Miss Sunshine!
     
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    All the information above I found in an "orphan" family tree posted by an ancestry user. I have contacted the tree owner to see if they can provide additional information.

    They also posted something about non-family photos found.

    This is the link to the tree for ancestry members:
    http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/12000181/person/603270526?ssrc=

    wil let you know what i find out. nm
     
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    I think this might be the sister:

    "California, Death Index, 1940-1997," Beatrice May Bingener, 1958
    Name: Beatrice May Bingener
    Event: Death
    Event Date: 27 Mar 1958
    Event Place: Los Angeles, California, United States
    Birth Date: 22 Jun 1901
    Birthplace: Other Country
    Gender: Female
    Father: Ambrose
    Mother: Mayo

    "Arrival Contact: Sister Beatriz May Bingeroer" might be a mangling of the name?
     
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    I haven't been able to verify this elsewhere, but according to a brief mention on this page, a Paul Bingener has one immediate family member, Beatrice.

    Possible husband to Beatrice, brother-in-law to Edith?

    "United States Social Security Death Index," Paul Bingener, 1979
    First Name: Paul
    Middle Name:
    Last Name: Bingener
    Name Suffix:
    Birth Date: 6 July 1902
    Social Security Number: 557-42-5200
    Place of Issuance: California
    Last Residence: Santa Monica, Los Angeles, California
    Zip Code of Last Residence: 90405
    Death Date: December 1979
    Estimated Age at Death: 77

    "California, Death Index, 1940-1997," Paul Bingener, 1979
    Name: Paul Bingener
    Event: Death
    Event Date: 26 Dec 1979
    Event Place: Los Angeles, California, United States
    Birth Date: 06 Jul 1902
    Birthplace: Other Country
    Gender: Male
    Father:
    Mother:
     
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    The owner of the family tree sent me this message:

    There is family in the UK. Edith's brother has a son who is still alive. His daughter, Tracy reached out to me a couple of months ago after seeing the info on the tree. I gave her the contact info and offered to assist since I'm in California. Will let you know if I hear more.

    I asked her if she did have more contact with the family to please let me know and if possible ask the relatives to contact San Bernadino.
     
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    I am still trying to understand this forum. Edith Ambrose is listed as a "match" based upon the fact that someone in the UK said Edith has a living relative.

    do you have any knoweldge whether this person ever contacted San Bernadino and if the authorities in SB have closed their file?
     
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    SB has been notified, Nemo apparently has had contact. Sb will close the case on there site soon.
     
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    This is the reply to my inquiry to the owner of the family tree owner who had occasional contact with Edith's living family. This is the very interesting email the family member sent:

    Thanks for your message. Sorry to have been so long replying but life has been fairly hectic and I have not had time to even glance at the Ancestry site until yesterday when my husband looked something up and I spotted there was a message waiting to be read.

    What a shame that no one knew when Edith died; though I know there was no contact between the two sisters who emigrated to the US and the rest of the family for many years. My father wasn’t even sure that they really had emigrated.

    Having looked at your entry again I have now contacted the Coroner’s Office and” claimed” Edith Mary. I will then contact the person in charge of archives who will look in the file and hopefully give me more information. It is very irksome not knowing more about her life. I only wish I had started looking into the Ambrose family tree years ago so I could have tried to trace her.

    I had been doing the family tree with my first cousin once removed, Vickie. She is even busier than I am so after pretty much completing it a couple of years ago we have only looked sporadically since. We only ever had a subscription that covered the UK so hence no discoveries from across the Atlantic.

    Thanks once again for your message and your kind offer to call the Coroner’s Office. The deputy I spoke to today was incredibly helpful and friendly.

    It is very strange that Edith should have ended up in San Bernadino as twice this year San Bernadino has cropped up in our lives. Firstly I met a visiting policewoman from San B who is the half sister of a friend of ours here in France, and then rather excitingly, my mother in law discovered that my husband’s grandfather’s third cousin is also known as the Hunchbacked Killer of San Bernadino! He was called Alfred Horace Wells and killed three people and went to the gas chamber in 1942. Google him!
     

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