Aucune de ces « disparitions » ne me surprend. Il suffirait de se cacher à l'ombre pour échapper au soleil et on ne vous reverrait plus jamais.
Aucune de ces « disparitions » ne me surprend. Il suffirait de se cacher à l'ombre pour échapper au soleil et on ne vous reverrait plus jamais.
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Grandad, 73, vanishes after going out for a walk on Greek Island
I think so, yes.Apologies, I haven't followed the thread for a while. But if EAC was spotted between 12 and 12.30pm by the goat herder. Does that not suggest he got pretty close to his ultimate destination re Katapola?
Which would suggest he has succumbed at the end of an almost five hour hike. That would be desperately said if true.I think so, yes.
I would also have thought he might have been able to make it to Chora if he realized he was in trouble.Which would suggest he has succumbed at the end of an almost five hour hike. That would be desperately said if true.
If he were spotted by the shepherd between 12 and 12.30, he is clearly far beyond Chora?I would also have thought he might have been able to make it to Chora if he realized he was in trouble.
It's a five hour hike from Aegaili to Katapola. If he indeed started at the back of 7am he would be approaching Katapola at roughly 12.30pm. I would suggest EAC, sadly, will be found quite close to his ultimate destination.If he were spotted by the shepherd between 12 and 12.30, he is clearly far beyond Chora?
It's so hard to say, these cases can be so mysterious.It's a five hour hike from Aegaili to Katapola. If he indeed started at the back of 7am he would be approaching Katapola at roughly 12.30pm. I would suggest EAC, sadly, will be found quite close to his ultimate destination.
IMO
That is desperately sad. Twelve years. You are quite correct though, I am only surmising. As you say, perhaps he went somewhere relevant to himself and not to searchers. I think what is more likely is he, almost 5 hours into the walk, has succumbed to heatstroke.It's so hard to say, these cases can be so mysterious.
I was just remembering a case in a US desert park, a similarly age man, similarly experienced and prepared, hiking on a hot day in June, never made it back to his car. Beyond the many days of SAR searching, a few private, experienced individuals took on the challenge of finding his remains, and logged many - probably hundreds - of hours walking the park based on various theories of what might have happened. Twelve years after going missing, his remains were found, completely by accident, in an area no one had searched (and yet there was an alleged phone ping around that area, that had been dismissed as impossible because it was several miles in the wrong direction).
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ETA - apparently, maps were found with his remains, and there was cell coverage in many areas he'd probably passed through.
So, it's really hard to say, except that, since they haven't found Albert yet - and there doesn't appear to have been any pings at all - he went somewhere that doesn't make sense to searchers, but made sense to him.
JMO
Oliver Calibet : “As missing tourists seem to be a common occurrence in Greece, I strongly urge the Greek government to create a uniform process and procedure for such cases.
"I am aware that current EU law prohibits the release of mobile phone tower data, however in cases of missing persons such as this, the law must be changed."
IMO there’s nothing nefarious going on. This happens all the time in the US, too, as well as universally. People go missing off the beaten track and are never found. Heck, Ötzi was found, what, 5,000 years later? People get buried under rubble and snow, crawl into caves, crawl under rocks, fall into tree wells, fall off canyon walls into inaccessible places, etc.Just because it’s hot the sun cannot make people vanish. Yes it can kill but not make disappear. Like the 2 missing French ladies on Sikinos, the sun may of killed them or a fall but not made them disappear. It’s extremely odd that one of the ladies S.O.S text to the hotelier was 2 days after they went missing . I certainly feel something else maybe at play and is reason Albert also disappeared but I think Greek officials will not get to the bottom of anything to protect tourism.
JMO.
IMO the effects of sunstroke can seem to overtake a person suddenly. I’m thinking of the fellow who went for a trail run in the Bay Area in high temperatures. You’d think he could make it back to the car if he felt too hot, but no. Same with the couple and baby near Yosemite. They died not very far from their car.I would also have thought he might have been able to make it to Chora if he realized he was in trouble.
AFAIK the Greek government does have a standard protocol. Often foreign governments are blamed for being disorganized or not caring enough when American tourists go missing. In the past year: Japan, Guatemala, Greece, Alaska. Though there is a protocol (in the US, too), people don’t like the protocol if their loved one isn’t found.Ακυρώθηκαν οι έρευνες για τον αναπληρωτή συνταξιούχου σερίφη που χάθηκε ενώ έκανε πεζοπορία σε ελληνικό νησί
Οι πιο πρόσφατοι τίτλοι από τους δημοσιογράφους μας σε όλες τις ΗΠΑ παραδίδονται απευθείας στα...prevezaposto.gr
This is a relevant article recently published in the online English version of Kathimerini: Greek trails: Taking the wrong step in stifling conditions | eKathimerini.com
The mayor of Sikinos, Vassilis Marakis, says rescue crews have been searching for the two Frenchwomen, aged 64 and 73, who went missing on the island, since last Friday. “They left in 40 degrees Celsius to hike off the official trail, in a difficult area. We are talking about a huge search operation with drones from the Rhodes Fire Department, private drones, coast guard boats, private boats, with me and all the deputy mayors ready to assist.”
in À Cogolin, inquiétude et questions après la disparition en Grèce de Marie-Pierre Arfel - France Bleu"Mapi (le surnom de Marie-Pierre Arfel, NDLR) était une voyageuse aguerrie et prudente" poursuit la jeune femme, qui ne croit pas à la thèse de l'accident lors d'une randonnée. Laurie Delmas fait défiler sur son téléphone portable les dernières photos et captures d'écran prises par son amie en Grèce : "Elle avait préparé sa randonnée puisqu'elle avait consulté des sites internet et tracé le parcours de la marche prévue le mercredi. Les autorités grecques disent que c'était la canicule, mais c'est faux… Il faisait 28 degrés ce jour-là, une température idéale pour Marie-Pierre. Et pour avoir déjà fait des marches avec elle, elle prévoyait tout : son sac était toujours comme celui de Mary Poppins, avec des barres de céréales, des boissons et forcément une trousse à pharmacie."
It wouldn’t surprise me at all if the women went off trail. There are thousands of years of pathways made by goats, donkeys, and humans on these islands. Runoff makes others. Abandoned habitations yet more. The odds of going off trail and not realizing are substantial. Who knows what methods any of these missing hikers had for actually staying on track? And if your brain isn’t working correctly—for sure it isn’t in these conditions—the odds of going off trail would be, I’d guess, about 99%. So, the mayor is speaking to her truth.How does the mayor know they went off the official hiking trail?
Marie-Pierre's friends say that on the Wednesday of the disappearance it was cooler and that Marie-Pierre had carefully prepared her excursion.
in À Cogolin, inquiétude et questions après la disparition en Grèce de Marie-Pierre Arfel - France Bleu