Andrea Lyons ~ Tapes and Lectures And RECENT MEDIA

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  1. sleutherontheside

    sleutherontheside Retired WS Staff

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    AL did a podcast on the 7th in Chicago......discussing the DP and some of her cases. I found it interesting that when discusing her record......she described it a bit differently than what we have heard. We keep hearing about 19 cases where she won against the death penalty. In her words however......she described having some 30-40 potential death penalty cases....some she pled, some she got a second degree conviction and some were aquitted. 19 of those I lost but was able to prevent them from the death penalty. Sooooooooooooooo sounds a bit different in her own words on a little podcast done in Chicago and outside the bright lights and heat from this case. Hmmmm

    Here are the links to the podcast from 1/7/2010

    http://www.wgnradio.com/shows/ext720/wgnam-x720-uncut100107a,0,342584.mp3file

    http://www.wgnradio.com/shows/ext720/wgnam-x720-uncut100107b,0,408121.mp3file
     
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  3. sleutherontheside

    sleutherontheside Retired WS Staff

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    Here is one she did yesterday with Steve Malzberg..

    http://www.wor710.com/pages/419284.php

    I am getting ready to listen but apparently it gets heated.

    Andrea Lyon discusses her book Angel of Death Row on the Steve Malzberg Show. Andrea became very combative when asked about the Casey Anthony Trial, which she is the defense attorney for, and would not support her statements exclaiming Casey Anthony is innocent. Quote from intro to story.

    You can't forward through it and there are other stories prior to it....just a heads up. Steve uses racy language that may offend some.
     
  4. sleutherontheside

    sleutherontheside Retired WS Staff

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    OMG.........I am still listening to the podcast with Malzberg.....AL only commented on KC at the onset and was soooooooooooooooooooooo rude and in the hosts words...."combative". SHe agreed to comment on her statement to Meredith about the Salem Witch Trials but categorically refused to answer one more question about the KC case. She was...shall we say.....in the hot seat and didn't like it. THIS is an interview to listen to. I am still listening but she did say this.... She has never tried a case where the ENTIRE population of the area in which the person is to be tried hates the client. She said that trying to conduct their investigations is virtually impossible because everyone hates KC and are afraid to talk to the team.
    She is the complete opposite of the Meredith interview. I smell mitigation, or her argument for appeal in her remarks about not being able to conduct her investigation for her client.

    Let me tell you this guy is totally "b*tch slapping" her. THis is great. He is calling her out for claiming things that she can't recall or back up. She is arguing with him and he isn't throwing any softballs. LOVE IT!!!!
     
  5. Tulessa

    Tulessa Well-Known Member

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    She's up next. Gonna be good from Steve's tone of voice! :woohoo::woohoo::woohoo:
     
  6. sleutherontheside

    sleutherontheside Retired WS Staff

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    That is an understatement. HeeHee
     
  7. Tulessa

    Tulessa Well-Known Member

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    LMAO! Love this guy and she can't give that guys name.
     
  8. sleutherontheside

    sleutherontheside Retired WS Staff

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    I know.....she is discussing wrongful convictions and cases where an innocent person was executed and she is so passionate about this subject and as Steve said..she has dedicated her life to this cause and she can't give him the name of the man who was wronfully convicted and executed. PRICELESS!!!!
     
  9. Tulessa

    Tulessa Well-Known Member

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    He called her bogus LOL!
     
  10. sleutherontheside

    sleutherontheside Retired WS Staff

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    I declare madatory listening for this podcast.
     
  11. knt

    knt New Member

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    Thanks! I listened! Sooo... people are AFRAID to talk to the defense? Gee... maybe it's because the defense loves to throw innocent people under the bus ? The whole population HATES KC? Couldn't be due to anything KC has done, could it? AL's just as obnoxious as Baez! KC seems to have that effect on people, doesn't she? (CA for example :snooty:)
     
  12. LambChop

    LambChop Former Member

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    Did I hear her defending the FBI in the arson case?
     
  13. TakeNote

    TakeNote Mother to little post it my boy wonder & Founding

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    how do you fast forward thru malzberg show?
     
  14. sleutherontheside

    sleutherontheside Retired WS Staff

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    You can't.......unless you listen from your download.
     
  15. logicalgirl

    logicalgirl Peace Hawk

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    Thanks so much for bringing this particular radio show to our attention. (And the podcasts) Speaking of bungling public relations, I was shocked that as a death penalty opponent she wasn't able to easily roll the name of one individual who has been wrongly put to death for a crime he/she didn't commit! No, really shocked! And Steve took full advantage of it. If Andrea is really going to promote her book and her beliefs I really believe she needs to work on her really short fuse and develop thicker skin.

    PS: I wish I'd said what you said in post #13 - heh heh
     
  16. sleutherontheside

    sleutherontheside Retired WS Staff

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    The reason I look for these lectures, interviews, and podcasts, is because it gives us a unique look at her "game", her "strategy", her M.O. . With a case this high profile and the behavior of the defense team.....I think it only fair to demonstrate their "thought process". I don't begrudge anyone their methods or their "tools"......but if you are trying to achieve the goal of saving lives due to your moral beliefs, then perhaps you should exercise some respect for the intelligence of those not on trial. JMO.....
     
  17. sleutherontheside

    sleutherontheside Retired WS Staff

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    I have a favor to ask of fellow members...........This comes from me....ordinary average poster.......please listen to, evaluate, and discuss the AL interviews like the professionals that we all are. I think that the interviews are quite interesting given the multitude of AL personalities we are seeing. She IMO is attempting to "play to her audience" and failing IMO to show any consistency in her demeanor or opinions. For example......Steve Malzberg is known to stir it up....he is brash and "in your face" it's his "thing". I think that Andrea went into the interview with her guard up and on alert. She morphed into someone "not to mess with". Her interview with Meredith Viera demonstrated an entirely different demeanor. She appears one way in court, yet resorts to "bullying" outside the courthouse. She portrays herself as the "advocate" for preserving life yet seems not to respect those who oppose her. Let's be sure to discuss the real contradictions in her actions and refrain from just "bashing". Bashing is for other forums.....we are far better AND brighter than that. Climbing off soapbox and hiding behind sofa. HeeHee

    This is not directed to ANYONE.......I just anticipate it heating up.
     
  18. Tulessa

    Tulessa Well-Known Member

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    Amen! :)
     
  19. cyberborg

    cyberborg Seeking Justice for Victims

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    I listened to the podcast, interesting.

    Cost versus Benefit?

    While AL should have known what to expect at this interview she does do herself a dis-service both in terms of the KC case and her book. She definitely needs a PR person as a handler but also needs to try to bring people on board to care about her mission and work rather than be seen as AL against the world and treat it confrontationally.

    She needs to educate and raise awareness. I think that the issue is, she took on the KC case to enable publicity for her book but it is a double-edged sword in that while it garners the publicity ..... people are very passionate about the case and Justice for Caylee.

    AL needs to pick one. Either promote your book and your anti-DP message OR defend KC. To me they are in conflict since KC is the wrong person to use to gain public support and sympathy that she should not face Murder 1 and the DP. AL needed someone she can soft sell to aid her work not someone who creates such passion.
     
  20. LambChop

    LambChop Former Member

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    I would imagine they would expect the public to be upset with this case. Filing that motion during RK's deposition was a big mistake. Videos of the ex-wives broadcasted when they knew there would be little chance we would see them otherwise, another mistake. I know it is the defense's job to create reasonable doubt but the public obviously does not feel this was reasonable. This is not a case of KC saying "Bibbity Bobbity Boo" and the public screaming "She's a witch, let's burn her." This is a case where all the evidence/information released so far points directly at KC. You want it to die down....stay away from the media. Everytime they show up on a TV show we have three threads or more going strong at the same time. They know what they are suppose to do....but then that won't sell any books. JMO
     
  21. Horace Finklestein

    Horace Finklestein New Member

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    Her reasoning is just bizarre. Saying the death penalty is not a deterrent and does not make society safer. Ok, that may be, but is prison a deterrent? Does imprisoning criminals make society safer or less safe than the death penalty? Clearly imprisonment is more dangerous to society and other human lives, because the criminal can still harm people/other inmates. Neither is perfect, but imprisonment is more dangerous than the death penalty in terms of potential harm to society.Following her 'logic', there should be no imprisonment either.
     

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