Annie Le, the person

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I found an article about Annie that I felt offered some insight into her as a person. Friends report that she was "hilarious" and that she was "not flirty" (and there is no way RC would have been confused about her lack of interest in him as a romantic prospect). It also says that (at least as of her college years) she was "a devout Christian". Weird place for the article, but maybe it's just a reprint of something published elsewhere.

http://www.tradingmarkets.com/.site/news/Stock News/2536585/
 
Skigirl said:
I found an article about Annie that I felt offered some insight into her as a person. Friends report that she was "hilarious" and that she was "not flirty" (and there is no way RC would have been confused about her lack of interest in him as a romantic prospect). It also says that (at least as of her college years) she was "a devout Christian". Weird place for the article, but maybe it's just a reprint of something published elsewhere.

http://www.tradingmarkets.com/.site/news/Stock News/2536585/
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Excellent article, Skigirl! I posted your link at the media thread.
 
What I've read is that she wanted to be a pathologist. Which would be like Dr. G, medical examiner.
Dr. G is an MD, and had additional training after getting her MD to be a pathologist.
 
She tried to live her life by the 10 commandments.


From the article Skigirl posted.
 
Its a good article, and personally got the impression that she was all that, that she truely was a good & bright person.

The small group of strange haters on the internet that pops up, are either jelous or racist.
 
jjenny said:
What I've read is that she wanted to be a pathologist. Which would be like Dr. G, medical examiner.
Dr. G is an MD, and had additional training after getting her MD to be a pathologist.
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She wanted to be a researcher - doesn't matter what department, that's largely arbitrary - that's what every friend and mentor has said and that's what her program was training her to do.

In the context of being a pathologist, "extra training" means an internship and residency, and maybe more after that on forensics, etc., not a Ph.D. and postdoctoral fellowship. One type of "extra training" is clinical/technical/trade, the other type of "extra training" is for research.
 
Skigirl said:
She wanted to be a researcher - doesn't matter what department, that's largely arbitrary - that's what every friend and mentor has said and that's what her program was training her to do.

In the context of being a pathologist, "extra training" means an internship and residency, and maybe more after that on forensics, etc., not a Ph.D. and postdoctoral fellowship. One type of "extra training" is clinical/technical/trade, the other type of "extra training" is for research.
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She wanted to be a pathologist. She wanted to get her MD and be certified as a surgeon.

"So, I've got to go to school for about 12 years first," the clear-eyed girl said, "get my MD and be certified as a surgeon. I just hope that all that hard work is going to pay off and I'm really going to enjoy my job."

http://xml.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-annie-le-profile15-2009sep15,0,5055517.story

People think since she was studying pharmacology she was going to become a pharmacist. But that isn't so. If she was an M.D./Ph.D. student she would have been able to practice medicine just like someone who just has an M.D. If she was only a Ph.D. student she wouldn't be able to practice medicine.
 
jjenny said:
She wanted to be a pathologist. She wanted to get her MD and be certified as a surgeon.

"So, I've got to go to school for about 12 years first," the clear-eyed girl said, "get my MD and be certified as a surgeon. I just hope that all that hard work is going to pay off and I'm really going to enjoy my job."

http://xml.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-annie-le-profile15-2009sep15,0,5055517.story

People think since she was studying pharmacology she was going to become a pharmacist. But that isn't so. If she was an M.D./Ph.D. student she would have been able to practice medicine just like someone who just has an M.D. If she was only a Ph.D. student she wouldn't be able to practice medicine.
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My understanding is that quote is from when she was in high school. Many people change their minds about what they want to during the years between high school and graduate school. She was in a program that exists to train researchers. She had an NSF grant. Those are for research-oriented students who plan on academia. She trained at NIH. That is a program for budding researchers. She was said to be heavily involved in research in college.

I really don't see what difference it makes in the context of her death, but to the extent that it matters what her career aspirations were, I would be more inclined to believe what her contemporaries, current friends, academic advisor and the chair of her department have to say about what those were than what people say about what she hoped to do when she was in high school.

http://www.yaledailynews.com/news/features/2009/09/14/idealistic-young-woman/
http://www.campustimes.org/news/ur-community-remembers-annie-le-1.1882380
 
Like you said, it really doesn't matter because she is dead, but if she was an M.D./Ph.D. student, then after getting her Ph.D. degree she would have gone on to get her M.D. degree. Ph.D. part of it would take several years, while the student does research as any Ph.D. student. But then an M.D./Ph.D. student goes on to get the M.D. degree, while Ph.D. student doesn't. The M.D./Ph.D. programs are very hard to get into, someone would need really high tests scores. It is easier to get into either just the Ph.D. program or just the medical school. Since it was reported she was an M.D./Ph.D. student I presume she would have gone on to receive her M.D. after getting her Ph.D.
 
Skigirl said:
I found an article about Annie that I felt offered some insight into her as a person. Friends report that she was "hilarious" and that she was "not flirty" (and there is no way RC would have been confused about her lack of interest in him as a romantic prospect). It also says that (at least as of her college years) she was "a devout Christian". Weird place for the article, but maybe it's just a reprint of something published elsewhere.

http://www.tradingmarkets.com/.site/news/Stock News/2536585/
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Skigirl, this is an awesome article! I'll bet people feel blessed to have shared their lives with her. I no doubt believe she was a wonderfully gifted person...one I wish I could say I had been friends with! Very sad to lose her.

Skigirl said:
My understanding is that quote is from when she was in high school. Many people change their minds about what they want to during the years between high school and graduate school. She was in a program that exists to train researchers. She had an NSF grant. Those are for research-oriented students who plan on academia. She trained at NIH. That is a program for budding researchers. She was said to be heavily involved in research in college.

I really don't see what difference it makes in the context of her death, but to the extent that it matters what her career aspirations were, I would be more inclined to believe what her contemporaries, current friends, academic advisor and the chair of her department have to say about what those were than what people say about what she hoped to do when she was in high school.

http://www.yaledailynews.com/news/features/2009/09/14/idealistic-young-woman/
http://www.campustimes.org/news/ur-community-remembers-annie-le-1.1882380
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I personally think more people like her would be needed at the CDC. No doubt wherever she ended up, she surely would have made a massive impact. Such a brilliant dedicated mind.
 
Another wonderful memory of Annie:

By Mary E. O’Leary, Register Topics Editor

NEW HAVEN — Annie Marie Le was not only a brilliant student, she loved fashion, was fun to be with and collected friends as easily as she gathered academic accolades.

“She is hilarious,” said Beth Kopin-Markert, 24, of Buffalo, N.Y., who can’t bring herself to speak of Le in the past tense.

Le, 24, who by her own description was about to marry her “best friend,” and was in countdown mode to her wedding day, is expected to be buried within a week, leaving behind a heartbroken fiance and stunned family and friends.

http://nhregister.com/articles/2009/09/20/news/new_haven/doc4ab59236798c8560450217.txt
 
Annie Le, 1985–2009

by Constance Holden

Murdered Yale University graduate student Annie Le was getting her Ph.D. in pharmacology, but her ambitions were spread wider. In 2006, as a college student, she worked on adult stem cells in the National Institutes of Health lab of Rocky Tuan, subsequently writing that she hoped to become a professor or NIH researcher. Tuan, now director of the Center for Cellular and Molecular Engineering at the University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine, emailed ScienceInsider to share her thoughts. "Annie was such a special person and a wonderful student that I am still having a hard time accepting the fact that she is gone. ... She had so much future ahead of her."

http://blogs.sciencemag.org/scienceinsider/2009/09/annie-le-198520.html

IMO - No matter what program Annie was in - MD/Ph.D or Ph.D alone, she was bound to be a success. In 2006, as an undergrad Annie worked with stem cells in the NIH. She was brilliant.
 
Murdered Yale Student Annie Le Remembered By Those Who Loved Her

(excellent video at link)

Simpson described her friend as a fun-loving woman who was immersed in her work and social life equally. "She was a child at heart. She enjoyed life. She was adventurous. She was passionate about her work but she also wanted to have fun. She always had time for her friends."
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http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/09/15/crimesider/entry5313872.shtml
 
jjenny said:
She wanted to be a pathologist. She wanted to get her MD and be certified as a surgeon.

"So, I've got to go to school for about 12 years first," the clear-eyed girl said, "get my MD and be certified as a surgeon. I just hope that all that hard work is going to pay off and I'm really going to enjoy my job."

http://xml.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-annie-le-profile15-2009sep15,0,5055517.story

People think since she was studying pharmacology she was going to become a pharmacist. But that isn't so. If she was an M.D./Ph.D. student she would have been able to practice medicine just like someone who just has an M.D. If she was only a Ph.D. student she wouldn't be able to practice medicine.
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The comment above about earnig her MD was written in her high school year book. Many people change their minds about their career during college.

Yale Daily News specifically stated that although she was in the department of medicine she was NOT studying medicine:
http://www.yaledailynews.com/opinion/corrections/2009/09/21/editors-note2/



Le, who was studying in the School of Medicine’s Department of Pharmacology, was identified as “MED ’13,” despite the fact that, as a doctoral candidate, she was formally enrolled in the Graduate School of Arts and Sciences....Thus, Le will henceforth be identified as “GRD ’13.”

Her roommate said that she was not studying medicine, her school newspaper said she was not studying medicine. Nevertheless several posts here insist that Annie was enrolled in the MD/PH.D program, but I have seen no evidence of it.
 
Gene, the reason for the confusion is that she kept being identified as "MED '13," which is how med students are identified. If she's actually GRD '13, it is definitely safe to say that she was just getting a Ph.D.
 
It was announced today that her body will be released to her parents and the funeral and burial will be in California.
 
Skigirl said:
Gene, the reason for the confusion is that she kept being identified as "MED '13," which is how med students are identified. If she's actually GRD '13, it is definitely safe to say that she was just getting a Ph.D.
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Skigirl

I totally agree with you, and so it seems does the Yale Daily News, which is what that article was all about. They were trying to clear it up because it caused a great deal of confusion. However, I guess now that it is out there in the media it will live on forever.
 
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